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Nice. Thats probably exactly the trailer the wife will be pulling.
Don't forget you need a WDH to do this safely...

For reference, my trailer weighs 2200 lbs without the beasts in it and comes in around 5K with both horses loaded. I would not want anything heavier with the JGC when it comes to a "live load". And I wouldn't do this if it was frequent hauling, either.

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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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I chose the HEMI for the simple
mindset of. It's better to have and not need then to need and not have.
This. I've made this mistake before, and I'll never do it again. I had a 2004 Toyota Tacoma double cab 4x4, with the 3.4L V6 (190 HP). It seemed ok on the test drive. But driving on the freeway and up and down mountain passes was nearly unbearable. It would shift out of overdrive when negotiating a 1% uphill grade, or a 2 mph headwind. GUTLESS. And it got about 17 mpg, roughly the same as my Hemi. Gimme the V8!!
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

I've had and IMHO made the mistake of buying an SUV with a v6 and while it may be slightly better on gas I could also feel how that engine was sweating bullets and farting while trying to haul 3000-almost 4000 pounds around on a daily basis. If I was hauling anything other then passengers fuggget about it.
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

Im finding people's opinion on newer V6 SUVs kind of surprising. This by no means to bash the V8 guys because I was one too, but most newer SUVs with V6s are actually quicker than the WK2 with V8. My wife's 2014 Toyota Highlander for example I'm pretty sure would pull on a V8 WK2. Hate to also say it, but even her new Honda Odyssey with Hondas awesome 3.5l V6 is probably just as quick. All I'm saying is that just because it has a V8 doesn't mean it's any quicker than other SUVs with V6s, because the fact of the matter is unfortunately our V8 WK2s are actually probably slower than them.
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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This. I've made this mistake before, and I'll never do it again. I had a 2004 Toyota Tacoma double cab 4x4, with the 3.4L V6 (190 HP). It seemed ok on the test drive. But driving on the freeway and up and down mountain passes was nearly unbearable. It would shift out of overdrive when negotiating a 1% uphill grade, or a 2 mph headwind. GUTLESS. And it got about 17 mpg, roughly the same as my Hemi. Gimme the V8!!
yeah see this is where I noted the difference the most also is the mid range acceleration. I have the 2014 5.7 GC and have had the 3.6 2014-2015 GC as rentals on several occasions. One of several places I noticed this is an on ramp I need to use every day. Many of the people on the ramp seem to somehow think they are being safe by slowly accelerating on this extended ramp to about 45mph before it abruptly dumps you into a flow of traffic doing 80 mph. Not only is it dangerous for the lead driver but that driver puts everyone behind them into danger also. One must quickly get up to the flow of 80 from the 45 on this busy highway. with the abrupt speed change the v8 fairly effortlessly gets to speed in that range, the v6 was always more of a struggle and I often found my foot on the floor wanting more. The same goes for passing on single lane opposing traffic in that 40-65 range. Around the city stop lights and the normal driving the 3.6 felt fine I didn't really have any issues with it there, its the situations needing that extra kick where you miss it. when Car and Driver compared the 2014 GC 5.7 and 3.6 the reason they gave that they only produced a 1 mpg difference in mixed driving between the two engines was because they had to work the v6 harder to move the heavy suv around. the EPA mixed difference is 3 mpg and its generally been reported on here that 2 mpg is about what many are seeing, some more some less. The heavier foots will be closer to the 1 mpg, the lighter foots closer to the 3 mpg. Personally I could care less because I will always buy the v8 as long as its offered with out a thought but I'm shopping GCs for my sister and I'm really hoping that the new 2016 v6 is going to widen the mileage gap over the old 2014-2015 v6. I recommended to her to hold off on the old 2015 v6 as she was not in a rush and let them shake out the bugs on the new 2016 v6. Milous said 80% new parts in the new 2016 v6 so its a pretty substantial redesign and once they shake the bugs out it sounds to be a much better engine with more low end grunt and some better mileage numbers. I'm anxious to try out one of the 2016 v6s for comparison to the old style 2015 v6 not for me of course but want to get the feel of it. I have a trip coming up so going to try and get one.
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

The availability of the V8 was a key selling point for the Jeep Grand Cherokee. I drive my SUV like it is a sports car and while even the V8 isn't perfect, it is the absolute minimum for me. The lack of that caused me to write off basically all the Japanese SUVs.
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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The availability of the V8 was a key selling point for the Jeep Grand Cherokee. I drive my SUV like it is a sports car and while even the V8 isn't perfect, it is the absolute minimum for me. The lack of that caused me to write off basically all the Japanese SUVs.
Agree the 5.7 V8 is adequate for the heavy SUV the GC is but its by no means fast at all. I don't run around racing people in a 5300 suv that's slanted towards off road use. But I am always impressed at the speeds I can take off ramps though in the GC for as heavy as it is. That is after I got rid of those forteras and put some decent tires on it. I would have been off in the weeds somewhere with those mushy forteras at those speeds
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

You guys must be hyper milling to get 17-18mph average, I'm at 12.5-13 and haven't seen anything higher then 14mpg in the 3 months I've had the thing
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You guys must be hyper milling to get 17-18mph average, I'm at 12.5-13 and haven't seen anything higher then 14mpg in the 3 months I've had the thing
To get that kind of poor mpg's, you must be flooring the pedal almost all the time or more likely, there is something drastically wrong with your vehicle. Even SRT's do better than that.
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To get that kind of poor mpg's, you must be flooring the pedal almost all the time or more likely, there is something drastically wrong with your vehicle. Even SRT's do better than that.
Jeep seems to run fine and while I do hit the gas sometimes I'm not stomping on it constantly, all of my driving is country stop and go with lots of stop signs, traffic lights etc so I just assumed that part of the deal with the HEMI was shitty gas mileage
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Im finding people's opinion on newer V6 SUVs kind of surprising. This by no means to bash the V8 guys because I was one too, but most newer SUVs with V6s are actually quicker than the WK2 with V8. My wife's 2014 Toyota Highlander for example I'm pretty sure would pull on a V8 WK2. Hate to also say it, but even her new Honda Odyssey with Hondas awesome 3.5l V6 is probably just as quick. All I'm saying is that just because it has a V8 doesn't mean it's any quicker than other SUVs with V6s, because the fact of the matter is unfortunately our V8 WK2s are actually probably slower than them.
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It may be slower than other manufacturer's V6 (not by much) but not when compared to the WK2 V6. Also I would believe the results when compared to other SUVs will be more in our favour from 60-130 (not that we would go that fast!) given that the torque on the V8 at 390 is tremendous. In addition the torque of 390 vs 260 from the V6 is a significant difference. Once our car is already moving- that's where you will feel the difference. It's the heavy weight of the WK2 that we have to overcome when accelerating from a complete stop that makes us slower and not so much that other V6s are that superior. Take away a few hundred to several hundred pounds of weight (to match the Honda etc), and our cars will pull from 0-60 over any of the other V6s.
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The things people say to justify the larger engine are amusing.
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