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Old 03-10-2016, 08:15 AM
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

1) The extra cost didn't seem too bad. Breaking out that portion of the final price, it's somewhere in the $2700 range.

2) Avoid any potential issues with the V6+8speed combo.

3) 5200 pound truck... V8 seemed right.

4) Fun! The HA+V8 hauls ass off the line.

5) Sounds great.

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Old 03-10-2016, 09:08 AM
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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And I much prefer the heavy steering feel and more truck driving experience. If I wanted a nimble, corner carver, I would have gotten a crossover.
Agreed. It's an SUV and not a sports car.
Between the 2, however, the V6 will indeed corner better and handle better overall. As with most cars that have added weight up front, the car tends to understeer and push out the front. Ive not driven a V6 GC, but have experienced it in the BMW 5 series and Subaru Legacy. As little as 200 pounds makes the difference. Especially depending where it is located (over/ at/ aft of the front axle).
For me it boiled down to towing for the HEMI choice. Add the big brake kit and the other stuff in the tow package and it is a comfortable, capable small hauler. The V8 has over 330 lb-ft of torque at only 2000 rpm compared to a peak of 260 in the Pentastar at around 4000 rpm. To get a trailer moving up a hill from a stop takes torque and not HP.
That's just what suits my needs. If I never towed anything over 2500 pounds and only drove it around town then the V6 would have been my choice.
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:59 AM
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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For me it boiled down to towing for the HEMI choice. Add the big brake kit and the other stuff in the tow package and it is a comfortable, capable small hauler. The V8 has over 330 lb-ft of torque at only 2000 rpm compared to a peak of 260 in the Pentastar at around 4000 rpm. To get a trailer moving up a hill from a stop takes torque and not HP.
This is a very important, and often overlooked point. When it comes to towing torque is king, not the 70 H.P. difference between the V-6 and the HEMI. When you factor in the extra 70 foot pounds of torque, with the added fact it's available at half the RPM, it makes the HEMI the far better choice. And as you mentioned, the bigger brakes help in any condition.
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

The heavy duty brakes and the additional weight of the Hemi-equipped JGC can be an advantage when towing, particularly if there is a trailer brake failure. At that point, the tow vehicle has to do all the work...and it can get ugly fast if the trailer is pushing the tow vehicle such that control is lost.
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Old 03-10-2016, 03:50 PM
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This is a very important, and often overlooked point. When it comes to towing torque is king, not the 70 H.P. difference between the V-6 and the HEMI. When you factor in the extra 70 foot pounds of torque, with the added fact it's available at half the RPM, it makes the HEMI the far better choice. And as you mentioned, the bigger brakes help in any condition.
HP is how fast you hit a wall. Torque is how deep you go

When you look at torque #s peak there is a substantial difference. Up steep grades I'll keep the rpm around 3000+ . The wife always thought it sounded like I was killing the thing till I explained it to her. The high revs also allow the torque converter to lock and move more fluid through the cooler. Same with the engine oil, as it is tasked with heat evacuation from pistons and bearings. Oil is a coolant too.
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Old 03-10-2016, 04:06 PM
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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HP is how fast you hit a wall. Torque is how deep you go

Touché.

Very good point.

As many have said I also prefer the heavier feel and ride of the hemi. Feels as if you have more control of the road.

For example I've had 6 bangers that while doing 45 in a ramp curve, the vehicle felt as if it was about to slide and lose control. I later got a v8 of said vehicle and same curve on the ramp vehicle felt like a better, smoother ride with better control.

Not hating on the pentestar but not my cup of tea. It needs a factory turbo or blower!!!
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Re: For those who drive a Hemi 5.7

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I've had and IMHO made the mistake of buying an SUV with a v6 and while it may be slightly better on gas I could also feel how that engine was sweating bullets and farting while trying to haul 3000-almost 4000 pounds around on a daily basis. If I was hauling anything other then passengers fuggget about it.
I'm randomly jumping in here with a huge plug for the eco diesel. It crushes the v6 and v8 and will out tow both with ease. Wife's 2014 is averaging a hand calc'd 30 or more on the highway with 22k on the odometer and almost 2 years of driving. Had the SCR replaced and that's it, but the uconnect needs replaced it's a known issue we just haven't got it done yet. Anyways, just don't forget the eco-d as an option. Not a thread hi-jack just a reminder from an all diesel vehicle household.
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I'm randomly jumping in here with a huge plug for the eco diesel. It crushes the v6 and v8 and will out tow both with ease. Wife's 2014 is averaging a hand calc'd 30 or more on the highway with 22k on the odometer and almost 2 years of driving. Had the SCR replaced and that's it, but the uconnect needs replaced it's a known issue we just haven't got it done yet. Anyways, just don't forget the eco-d as an option. Not a thread hi-jack just a reminder from an all diesel vehicle household.
Admittedly, I didn't even consider the diesel when I ordered my '16. Not every station around us carries diesel fuel, plus I didn't particularly want the extra maintenance. I also have lifetime maxcare, which from what I had and have still read, isn't available. That, on top of the extra thousand or so for the diesel over the Hemi...eh. I'll stick with a tried and true American V8. Gas mileage has never been overly important to me, we have a sedan for that. Or my motorcycle!
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Admittedly, I didn't even consider the diesel when I ordered my '16. Not every station around us carries diesel fuel, plus I didn't particularly want the extra maintenance. I also have lifetime maxcare, which from what I had and have still read, isn't available. That, on top of the extra thousand or so for the diesel over the Hemi...eh. I'll stick with a tried and true American V8. Gas mileage has never been overly important to me, we have a sedan for that. Or my motorcycle!
Agreed! Also, the diesel sounds sooooo lame at WOT!! Like a fart in the wind . . . . ppppppffffffttttttt!! No thanks!!
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......I also have lifetime maxcare, which from what I had and have still read, isn't available.
That's what steered me away from the Eco Diesel as well. They cost a fortune to repair out of warranty.
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Big brakes on the 3.6 and factory tow?


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Admittedly, I didn't even consider the diesel when I ordered my '16. Not every station around us carries diesel fuel, plus I didn't particularly want the extra maintenance. I also have lifetime maxcare, which from what I had and have still read, isn't available. That, on top of the extra thousand or so for the diesel over the Hemi...eh. I'll stick with a tried and true American V8. Gas mileage has never been overly important to me, we have a sedan for that. Or my motorcycle!
Agreed!! And I'll challenge anyone that says the diesel will crush the hemi in a towing competition. Check out the tests between the two in a Dodge truck.
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