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Old 10-04-2013, 09:46 AM
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The new Land Rover manages to keep the A-pillars thinner with the structural protection. O think they use more expensive materials.
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My wife and I were heading to Costco yesterday and we were sitting in a U turn lane waiting for the light to change. As it went green, a woman to our left decided to turn right on her red light which pretty much placed her in the same time/space continuum that we were about to occupy.

The A pillar and mirror effectively blocked her from my immediate vision, but the auxiliary U turn warning device in the front passenger seat quickly alerted me to the presence of the offending vehicle. I was able to adjust accordingly.

As long as we fully utilize all of the safety warning devices in the GC, I don't think that the sizes of the pillar and side mirror are that big of a deal.

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It's great that the warning device worked well for you, but you do realize that many of us don't have that particular sysyem installed, don't you.... or, maybe had it installed at one time and subsequently had it removed...either due to too many false alarms, or because the volume adjustment just wouldn't work.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:18 PM
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

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It's great that the warning device worked well for you, but you do realize that many of us don't have that particular sysyem installed, don't you.... or, maybe had it installed at one time and subsequently had it removed...either due to too many false alarms, or because the volume adjustment just wouldn't work.

Yes, I am aware of that issue. However, I have heard that the next transmission flash will include a suitable holographic substitute with a silent alarm.
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

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Since owning my WK2 I have hit 17 pedestrians (family members & neighbors) and almost hit another 15 or so strangers. I feel lucky that I knew all of the victims and the injuries were mostly minor. If I had hit the strangers, I may have been subjected to a law suit. It's been a lot better lately because the wife, children, grandchildren, and neighbors are all aware of the design flaw and pretty much stay out of my way. I still worry about the uninformed strangers though.



So you have hit 17 people, and almost an additional 15?? I'm sorry but that says to me you probably need to have your lenses on your glasses checked.

I have hit exactly 0 obstacles, 0 near misses, 0 pedestrians, and have zero complaints about viability. If you want a car with poor visibility, drive the new Challenger, or Camaro, "Camaro especially" I have a few small gripes with my WK2 but visibility was never one of them..
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

I sit low and far back. When concerned about a forward blind spot (mostly left turns), I lean forward to change my FOV.

My 88 has similar A pillars and was told it was for mandated roll-over protection. The Buick's are further forward (the WK2 is very close coupled) and have not been an issue.

My real gripe is that you need either a rear camera or an open tailgate to have any rear visibility. It is curios how the glass is arranged so that fron the outside it looks like there is a lot more visibility than there really is.
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Since owning my WK2 I have hit 17 pedestrians (family members & neighbors) and almost hit another 15 or so strangers. I feel lucky that I knew all of the victims and the injuries were mostly minor. If I had hit the strangers, I may have been subjected to a law suit. It's been a lot better lately because the wife, children, grandchildren, and neighbors are all aware of the design flaw and pretty much stay out of my way. I still worry about the uninformed strangers though.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:41 PM
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

My current 2010 GC has a horrible blind spot from the rear view mirror. Trucks from the right side can get hidden behind it. I know it's an issue now so I always look under or around the mirror to double check.
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

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So you have hit 17 people, and almost an additional 15?? I'm sorry but that says to me you probably need to have your lenses on your glasses checked.

I have hit exactly 0 obstacles, 0 near misses, 0 pedestrians, and have zero complaints about viability. If you want a car with poor visibility, drive the new Challenger, or Camaro, "Camaro especially" I have a few small gripes with my WK2 but visibility was never one of them..
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You should get your sarcasm meter checked while he's at the optometrist.
had it checked and calibrated yesterday , said it should be good for another year.
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

Took an FJ Cruiser on an extended test drive. The visibility in that makes the JGC seem like the Pope Mobile. My Buick Enclave had more blind spots than my Jeep, just in different places. You have to learn to deal with these problems, as vehicles become more tank-like, especially suvs. If you want to blame someone, blame the NHTSA. You can also blame them for surviving a rollover crash, or side impact. Everything is a trade-off.
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

The A pillars are wide enough to block a whole car or person out of view if your looking at the right time or wrong time depending how you look at it. This problem is made even worse if you add the window vent visors to your ride.
The mirrors don't really bother me. I always look both ways a couple times or more before pulling out in traffic. Most people nowadays are always in a rush and just take one quick look both ways while rolling out from an incomplete stop. Thats when you could miss something behind the A pillar or mirror.

So always look both ways a few times and proceed with caution after a complete stop.
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Re: Forward 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock visibility

Occasionally I have a passenger side alarm. The problem is that once it goes off it continues for at least 10 miles.
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