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Old 03-17-2014, 11:40 PM
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Re: Fuses necessary to get home?

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Its because they're fanboys, and we've had this discussion in other threads before. While I love my Jeep, I am not a fanboy and I'm not willing to be quiet and accept poor quality and reliability and "carry fuses" as they are...that bothers them. If some of these people's Jeeps caught fire and killed their dog they'd say "Well, every car catches fire sometimes" lol.

They want to believe that every car has these same issues, and they're just par for the course. I know its not true, you know its not true...and really they know its not true either which is where the hostility comes from. Doesn't bother me

You make good point.

I wish I had never bought this Jeep. I have had 32 cars since I was sixteen, out of all of them, 3 were Jeeps and they all had issues like no other, except for my old 1998 Audi. 2002 was a piece crap. after 6 mo. transmission went out. 2011, after only 20,000 some miles the valves go out. 2014, under 4k miles had 2 computers replaced along with host of other crap. I better carry more than fuses to drive this piece a crap.

all cars have issues but this is getting ridiculous.

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Old 03-18-2014, 10:21 AM
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Re: Fuses necessary to get home?

Sadly, I understand. They would understand too if they had the same issues. Some of them have and have actually contacted me to apologize for being so rude to me when I had voiced my concerns before they started having problems.
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You're missing my point. Your Jeep shouldn't be blowing fuses in the first place! If the electrical system was operating properly...it wouldn't blow fuses...and on a brand new Jeep it should be operating properly. THATS my point.
This whole line of discussion is very entertaining. Fuses will blow under MANY circumstances beyond the manufacturer's control. Consider a wiring harness damaged by careless repair, or overloading aftermarket accessories, or plugging in too much load in the 12V or 120V outlets, or mechanical damage caused by water and debris getting into automotive systems. None of these have anything to do with vehicle quality or assembly. Fuses also protect against failed OEM parts, but ALL vehicle brands have such failures - just to varying degrees. Have any of the holy grail, high reliability auto manufacturers decided that overcurrent protection is not necessary? Not that I'm aware of. Over current protection is critical but cheap protection against expensive collateral damage. I would carry fuse spares, a tool kit, a fire extinguisher, and a spare tire even if I drove a {insert your favorite perfect car brand here.}

Using the excellent idea of having spare fuses to castigate a manufacturer is just....... It diverts attention from an otherwise valuable thread discussion.

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You make good point.

I wish I had never bought this Jeep. I have had 32 cars since I was sixteen, out of all of them, 3 were Jeeps and they all had issues like no other, except for my old 1998 Audi. 2002 was a piece crap. after 6 mo. transmission went out. 2011, after only 20,000 some miles the valves go out. 2014, under 4k miles had 2 computers replaced along with host of other crap. I better carry more than fuses to drive this piece a crap.

all cars have issues but this is getting ridiculous.
And I've had 4 Jeeps: 89, 97, 2012, and 2014. Put over 100,000 miles each on the first two, 15k on the 2012 and only traded it because I wanted the 8 speed (and V8). So far, zero problems.

One has to wonder why if all your jeeps sucked, that you keep buying them
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Or buy a car that doesn't require you to carry spare fuses.

Sorry...couldn't resist. Seriously is this 1965?


Exactly! The last time I worried about replacing fuses was on my 66' Ford Mustang.
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Re: Fuses necessary to get home?

I carry spare fuses or they are already there in every car I own as well as a fire extinguisher, small med kit, jumper cables, some gloves and a Tyvek suit. Why? Because where I live I need these things and I have helped put out car fires before.

It is called being prepared.

Apparently some people drive their car like a rental and have no care or concerns. I do.
I guess that is what military training and flying for a living does for you.
I am make agnostic as I do this with every vehicle not just the Jeep...
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And I've had 4 Jeeps: 89, 97, 2012, and 2014. Put over 100,000 miles each on the first two, 15k on the 2012 and only traded it because I wanted the 8 speed (and V8). So far, zero problems.

One has to wonder why if all your jeeps sucked, that you keep buying them
2002 was the first to give an American car a chance. it failed .
Tried again in 2011, it failed, but i had no choice at the time to exchange for this piece of shit.

finally sold at $6500 loss, could not be happier.

It's true, American cars still duck suck balls.
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2002 was the first to give an American car a chance. it failed .
Tried again in 2011, it failed, but i had no choice at the time to exchange for this piece of shit.

finally sold at $6500 loss, could not be happier.

It's true, American cars still duck suck balls.

You pay your money and you take your chances... that applies to all vehicles. It sucks when they don't.
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2002 was the first to give an American car a chance. it failed .
Tried again in 2011, it failed, but i had no choice at the time to exchange for this piece of shit.

finally sold at $6500 loss, could not be happier.

It's true, American cars still duck suck balls.
Sounds like you need to purchase only non-American vehicles to me. Among my American cars that weren't Jeep, I had a 1994 Firebird Formula. Put 103,000 miles on it and also pulled my 3500lbs Ski Nautique 4 times a week (about 8 miles round trip). Replaced the clutch disk at 50,000. Car was written off at 103,000 when I had a fire in the engine compartment due to an animal at the airport parking lot building a nest under the hood while I was away. Bought a 2004 Ford Mustang Mach-1. Put 93,000 miles on that one (also pulling the boat 4 times a week). Replaced a wheel sensor at 70k and a COP at 90k. Traded that (still had original clutch disk) on the 2012 Jeep. I've also owned two Mitsubishi's (Cordia and Starion), a Mazda (87 RX7 Turbo II), a VW (2004 Touareg), Two Honda's (Accord and Prelude). I've always maintained the vehicles on the schedules and have never had a lemon. Currently have a 2013 Cadillac SRX and a 2014 Jeep Overland. The Cadillac has had a couple of minor issues, the Jeep has had none so far. I don't know if you're incredibly unlucky or I'm incredibly lucky, but based on my personal experience, I don't let Country of origin bias my buying decision. I'm sorry you have had the troubles you did and hope you have better luck down the road!

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