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Old 11-03-2010, 03:27 PM
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Re: GC vs. 2011 Explorer Terrain Mgt System

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GC's have always been unibody/uniframe from the very beginning. Nothing has changed there except they have made it stiff as hell now. They did make the suspension fully independent now.
Were they?

Geez, shows how much I've been paying attention.
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Re: GC vs. 2011 Explorer Terrain Mgt System

FWD in a suv = crossover. Buy whatever floats your boat, but there is only one Jeep.
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Re: GC vs. 2011 Explorer Terrain Mgt System

The new Ford Explorer's "Terrain Management" really only needs two settings: asphalt or concrete. That's all the chassis is good for, IMHO, and I used to drive Exploders and still drive an Expedition among a small stable of cars.
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the new ford explorer's "terrain management" really only needs two settings: Asphalt or concrete.
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Re: GC vs. 2011 Explorer Terrain Mgt System

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The problem is, there's no real clearly defined category anymore. Used to be, a body on frame meant real SUV and a unibody meant crossover.

Well, now the Grand Cherokee has a unibody construction. I don't know I'd call it a crossover, because it's one strong unibody- you don't find unibodies with tow ratings of not quite four tons. You sure don't find that with the ability to run the Rubicon Trail.
I believe the Grand Cherokee has always been unibody. But I remember reading somewhere that they call it "uniframe" or something like that because it has something resembling a light-weight ladder frame built into the unibody chassis. Either way, it's definitely not a traditional body-on-frame like they used to make them. But it does seem that the Grand Cherokee is moving closer to crossover status with IRS now. If you want a true ladder frame and live axle rear in a mid-size SUV, your choices are extremely limited. The 4Runner is one choice and I believe the Xterra is another. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any others.
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