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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

Have you considered the 2014 Range Rover Sport. As long as you hold off on the Supercharged V8, you can add every option available (and there are a LOT of options) and stay under $80,000. The supercharged V6 in the SE and HSE trims puts out more than enough power and is very comparable to the 5.7L HEMI V8 in terms of output. Obviously the JGC is a better value than the RRS, but value isn't everything, and the RRS isn't a terrible value either. I would take a new JGC and over a used RR for sure, and I would take a 2014 RRS over a used RR for the same price, as the RRS is a newer, nicer vehicle with more options. It's all up to how much you want to spend. The RRS is a nicer vehicle, but whether it is worth the extra $10,000 (comparably equipped, but can go up a lot depending on whether you want some features that are not available on the JGC) is up to you. Just for reference, I am currently cross-shopping the JGC SRT with the RRS Autobiography (I am keeping my 2014 JGC Overland) and have test driven the RRS (HSE with the supercharged V6, Supercharged with the supercharged V8, and Autobiography with the supercharged V8). Interestingly, the dealer I bought my 2014 JGC Overland from would not let me test drive any of their JGC SRTs.
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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

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Have you considered the 2014 Range Rover Sport. As long as you hold off on the Supercharged V8, you can add every option available (and there are a LOT of options) and stay under $80,000. The supercharged V6 in the SE and HSE trims puts out more than enough power and is very comparable to the 5.7L HEMI V8 in terms of output. Obviously the JGC is a better value than the RRS, but value isn't everything, and the RRS isn't a terrible value either. I would take a new JGC and over a used RR for sure, and I would take a 2014 RRS over a used RR for the same price, as the RRS is a newer, nicer vehicle with more options. It's all up to how much you want to spend. The RRS is a nicer vehicle, but whether it is worth the extra $10,000 (comparably equipped, but can go up a lot depending on whether you want some features that are not available on the JGC) is up to you. Just for reference, I am currently cross-shopping the JGC SRT with the RRS Autobiography (I am keeping my 2014 JGC Overland) and have test driven the RRS (HSE with the supercharged V6, Supercharged with the supercharged V8, and Autobiography with the supercharged V8). Interestingly, the dealer I bought my 2014 JGC Overland from would not let me test drive any of their JGC SRTs.
Thanks for your reply! I have not driven the RRS, and I was wondering how the SC'd V6 felt.

How does the interior size/room of the RRS compare to the GC??

And, I cannot believe your dealer would not let you drive their SRT GC. I'd find another dealership. Jeez, me wife and I have personally purchased 6 vehicles from our dealership in about 3 years, and I've sent them another 20 or so deals.

When I rolled up to look at the GT500, (my dealership is also a Ford, GMC, and KIA dealership), they had it out of the showroom before I knew what happened, even after I told them I didn't want them to get it out for me!! And they always let me drive without the "babysitter".
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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

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Have you considered the 2014 Range Rover Sport. As long as you hold off on the Supercharged V8, you can add every option available (and there are a LOT of options) and stay under $80,000. The supercharged V6 in the SE and HSE trims puts out more than enough power and is very comparable to the 5.7L HEMI V8 in terms of output. Obviously the JGC is a better value than the RRS, but value isn't everything, and the RRS isn't a terrible value either. I would take a new JGC and over a used RR for sure, and I would take a 2014 RRS over a used RR for the same price, as the RRS is a newer, nicer vehicle with more options. It's all up to how much you want to spend. The RRS is a nicer vehicle, but whether it is worth the extra $10,000 (comparably equipped, but can go up a lot depending on whether you want some features that are not available on the JGC) is up to you. Just for reference, I am currently cross-shopping the JGC SRT with the RRS Autobiography (I am keeping my 2014 JGC Overland) and have test driven the RRS (HSE with the supercharged V6, Supercharged with the supercharged V8, and Autobiography with the supercharged V8). Interestingly, the dealer I bought my 2014 JGC Overland from would not let me test drive any of their JGC SRTs.
The name is a big thing when it comes to getting a car IMO. Really, they wouldn't let you test drive the SRT's? Thats kind of weird. Usually they let people test drive whatever cars they have on the lots unless maybe the salesman sold them already. Also the RRS looks really nice and it is comparable to the GC because they are practically in the same class (besides the luxury part, RRS has that over the GC)
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Thanks for your reply! I have not driven the RRS, and I was wondering how the SC'd V6 felt.

How does the interior size/room of the RRS compare to the GC??

And, I cannot believe your dealer would not let you drive their SRT GC. I'd find another dealership. Jeez, me wife and I have personally purchased 6 vehicles from our dealership in about 3 years, and I've sent them another 20 or so deals.

When I rolled up to look at the GT500, (my dealership is also a Ford, GMC, and KIA dealership), they had it out of the showroom before I knew what happened, even after I told them I didn't want them to get it out for me!! And they always let me drive without the "babysitter".

As I said, the S/C V6 is comparable to the 5.7L HEMI V8 in the JGC. It felt quicker, but there wasn't a huge difference in speed for me. The RRS definitely handles better than my 2014 JGC Overland, however, with less body roll, a more responsive chassis, and sharper steering. The JGC actually handles quite well, especially for a 5000+ LB SUV built for off-roading, just not quite as well as the RRS, in my opinion. Motortrend has the 2014 JGC Overland (5.7L V8) going 0-60 in 6.6 seconds and hitting the 1/4 mile in 14.9s@92.8 MPH, while it has the 2014 RRS HSE (3.0L S/C V6) going 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and hitting the 1/4 mile in 14.3s@96.5 MPH. Based on my test drive, this was probably not the best run for the JGC (I actually know it wasn't, as I have clocked my JGC going 0-60 in about 6 seconds, plus or minus .2 seconds given I was doing it by hand, although I have done a bunch of runs so my number is probably pretty accurate) and a pretty decent run for the RRS, as I did not feel like there was a full second difference 0-60 between the RRS and JGC, probably more like a half of a second. You should definitely take the RRS for a test drive and be a judge for yourself, as my experience could be different from yours.

Interior size felt pretty much identical to me, which is backed up by the actual dimensions. The RRS is slightly wider, longer, taller, and has a slightly longer wheelbase, although I don't think the difference is more than 2 inches at any point (I think the biggest difference was width, but I don't remember). You can look up the figures yourself if you want, but going and sitting it in person is much more helpful. Personally, I couldn't have told you which had more space inside even with them side by side, meaning any difference is pretty negligible (at least to me).

I would definitely check it out, as it fits the bill of what you are looking for pretty well. I think it is much, much nicer than a used RR at a comparable price, in terms of looks, interior, tech, drivetrain...you get the point. When I say the RRS is $10,000 more than a JGC comparably equipped, I am talking about equipment. I love my Jeep, but the Range Rover Sport's interior blows away the JGC's interior, which is saying a lot. I prefer the Jeep's interior to that in my Lexus (which stickered at over $10,000 more), as well as the interiors in many of the luxury competitors (BMW, Mercedes, etc.). The RRS interior is incredibly clean looking and every material is fantastic quality (there are almost no plastics). You will completely understand what I am talking about once you sit in both, but looking at pictures will give you a good sense of what I am saying (make sure you are looking at the 2014 Range Rover Sport, not the 2013).
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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

^^^Thank you for that review!! I got on the website and built a RRS. When comparably equipped with the GC, I got roughly 78K!! But I checked virtually every option box! LOL

I'm also glad to hear the RRS can get out of it's own way. I've had many Tahoes over the years, and they were 50HP and 100lb/ft of twist from being decent in acceleration, IMHO.

When I need my speed fix, I just let the big Hoss in my signature loose!! Then virtually everything else seems just a little lack luster, if you will!!

I'm gonna go check a RRS out for sure!
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My LC which was the Lexus version was a fantastic vehicle with two draw backs. Underpowered and sucked gas like nothing else I have owned except an early Ford pickup with a huge engine and big tires.
Maybe 14mpg on a good day usually 11mpg but if it had better gas mileage I would still have it.

Even my SO liked it and that is saying something. However 19 year newer technology makes the JGC diesel a winner...
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To answer the OP question

I looked at both these vehicles.
The land cruiser just looks old.
The RR looks nice and the fit and quality looks better then the 2010 RR I owned, but.....
The funky R in the headlights looks silly, and the fake vents on the front doors to mimic the real vents the precious generation had just offends me, this was a classy vehicle for a few decades.
Also looked at GL.

What can I say, I'm an engineer and fake form over function annoys me, so I went with an overland and got to buy a 2014 Durango with the spare change.

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LOL, I'm not. I know how it gets for the old timers here to see the same recycled crap day in and day out. It's the same on every forum on the net.

At KTMTalk, we have to endure a new "Rotella" thread almost daily in the oil forum!
I honestly don't recall the Land Cruiser being in the mix before. It was the Cayenne and Range Rover vs the poor underdog, antiquated but nice engined, faster than a Land Cruiser but slower than a Range Rover, GC.

I think the original discussion first came out on AOL via dialup.
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Yes, it stickers at 80k. One of my local dealerships has a leftover 13 for 69k.

Which brings me back to why I posted this thread. I wasn't asking for comparisons. I was just wondering if any of us considered a used RR or LC, when we purchased the GC.
Used and new Range Rover, yes. The Land Cruiser is just a tad on the large side for moi--but the Forerunner was in the mix as were X5, Touareg, Audi doodie, Cayenne, etc.
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I honestly don't recall the Land Cruiser being in the mix before. It was the Cayenne and Range Rover vs the poor underdog, antiquated but nice engined, faster than a Land Cruiser but slower than a Range Rover, GC. I think the original discussion first came out on AOL via dialup.
What's aol?

I'm responding to this via smoke signals that the resistance will translate to morse code.. . ... . ... .
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LOL, I bet I've told a hundred people that I can't believe RR doesn't sue Jeep over the GC interior.
The result might be much like when Mercedes threatened to sue Chrysler over the use of the pentastar hood ornament. Lee Iacocca allowed as how he would welcome any lawsuit implying buyers would be confusing a krap car with a Mercedes as being advertising at a bargain price.
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I know and it's a TOYOTA! If someone asks, "What do you drive?" and you say "I drive a Toyota" it doesn't sound great and I thought Toyota was known as a cheap brand that "everyone" can afford lol.
Toyota hasn't been the cheap brand that anyone can afford for quite some time.
Thats Hyundai and kinfolk. Toyota is now the brand for people with weak hearts that
cannot handle the ongoing excitement of a Buick.
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