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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

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I assume those reports did not include the 2014 JGC which (according to Consumer Reports and many posters in this forum) has some reliability and general QC issues.
They might. The original GC was fairly heavily tromped on by Consumer Reports. Far moreso than the new one.
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There was a quick interview in yesterday's WSJ where the president of Chrysler/Fiat indicated that he would like to make the GC a true luxery SUV to compete with Range Rover and move the new Cherokee up market.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:46 PM
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Well...they will have to make MAJOR changes to JEEP then
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Well...they will have to make MAJOR changes to JEEP then
Nope just a lot of small ones :-)

The platform is good, now need to clean up all the kinks. From electrical to welding under the wheel wells, everything needs to be perfect.
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Nope just a lot of small ones :-) The platform is good, now need to clean up all the kinks. From electrical to welding under the wheel wells, everything needs to be perfect.
They need to significantly improve vehicle quality (including the interior) and significantly improve their dealer network.
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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

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They need to significantly improve vehicle quality (including the interior) and significantly improve their dealer network.
And they need to charge 2x the price.

As for dealer network, if you're talking about adding dealers, I must be lucky in that I have 1 dealer 4 miles away, and 2 more 20 miles away.
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Re: GC vs Land Cruiser vs Range Rover

I meant major changes to jnap.....not jeep
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And they need to charge 2x the price. As for dealer network, if you're talking about adding dealers, I must be lucky in that I have 1 dealer 4 miles away, and 2 more 20 miles away.
I am not talking about quantity of dealers, it's more about the dealers providing a more premium level of service.
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I am not talking about quantity of dealers, it's more about the dealers providing a more premium level of service.
If they really want to compete with luxury marques with Jeep they need to do this I agree...
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well...the long term plan is the move the GC upmarket. Lets see what they do and how they do it....
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They need to significantly improve vehicle quality (including the interior) and significantly improve their dealer network.
I agree with a few things in the interior....but IMHO its already ahead of the RR, cayenne etc. with their multitude of confusing 1970's NASA buttons for EVERY little operation/option. I think the integration of some of the hard button functions on the RA4 was/is awesome. I don't even use the hard buttons. I just tell my RA4 what to do using voice or touchscreen. Much better than a multitude of confusing hard buttons. I would like to see the painted trim surfaces go aluminum...wood...steel...cf whatever. I agree it would be much nicer....but way more expensive.

Really for the exterior....they just need to tighten up QC or add an extra QC area. Misaligned body panels they cant easily be rectified are inexcusable. The body shop also needs a qc/corrections area expanded.
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well...the long term plan is the move the GC upmarket. Lets see what they do and how they do it....

If they plan on moving the GC more upmarket then Jeep definitely needs to get on the ball with dealerships, fit, finish and quality. I love my Grand but if they plan on moving it upmarket then there are definitely some things they could work on. Until that happens, Jeep is still in a league of its own and I'm happy with that.
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