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If you would add that to the Summit you would be in SRT territory, plus now they have the HA...
Sort-of. I want the equipment of the Summit less the chrome but add the option of a sport suspension. While I would love to have the SRT, for my needs and how I use the JGC, the power from the 5.7 Hemi is enough. It needs a better on-pavement suspension.

I am aware of the HA trim but it's still an Overland with the blackout package. I like the additional content from the Summit. This is not to diminish or be critical of the HA. It's a good package. I just want more "stuff" in my Jeep.

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You're suggestions sounds like what the High Altitude should have been.
Yes except include the "sport trim" option for the Summit along with the Overland (latter being the HA).
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:39 PM
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One touch up/down for all windows.
Remote up/down windows using the key fob.
Headlight washers on Overland.
Lighter shade of green paint.
Disc player in dash rather than half of armrest cubby.
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Re: GC Wish List

Several of these have been mentioned already, but here goes:

Interior:
-physical controls for heated/vented seats would be nice.
-auto-up/down switches for ALL windows
-removable rear headrests
-let me adjust the memory seats while I'm driving, please!
-more comfortable seats
-easier to find rear seat belt buckles

EVIC software updates:
-display song/artist info in the radio tab.
-allow custom sorting of menus (I would like the displays I use to be next to each other, and hide the ones I never use like the mph-to-kph).
-why does the temp/voltage/oil screen always stay at the last-used page, but the 4wd/steering angle page always revert back to 4wd-mode page when you switch away?
-something is wrong with the MPG calculation; mine is always too optimisitic, by 3-4 mpgs usually!

Mechanical:
-standard suspension is too much "one-size-fits-all" - it's not terrible in any category, but it sure doesn't impress in any category, either. I'd suggest a cushier ride as standard, with an optional sport suspension in addition to the QL.
-does anyone really notice a difference when "Eco" mode is turned on? It seems like it should do something, but I can't tell a difference in driving dynamics or mpgs.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:26 PM
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Several of these have been mentioned already, but here goes:

Interior:
-physical controls for heated/vented seats would be nice.
-auto-up/down switches for ALL windows
-removable rear headrests
-let me adjust the memory seats while I'm driving, please!
-more comfortable seats
-easier to find rear seat belt buckles
I agree with hard buttons for the front seat controls. I hate having to switch to another screen to get to them when I have music playing or navigating.

I doubt you'll ever see one touch up/down controls for the rears, even on the front pad. The back is for kids and pets and both tend to have a distinct lack of respect for proper window usage. While the front could certainly use a one touch down where it's out of reach of the kids and excitable dogs, a one touch up would be dangerous when the driver can't easily see if the window is clear of little heads and necks.

I believe the seats have active head restraints, so removing them could lead to damage to that feature. It's also an expensive reset if accidentally triggered. What I do is fold the seats forward to cause the headrest to tuck forward, then leave it that way when I put the seat back up. That way, they're pretty well flush with the top of the seat back. If someone sits there, their head will be blocking the view anyway.

They will never, ever let you adjust the power seat while driving. If one person accidentally floors the accelerator and wrecks while messing with the seat, they would absolutely sue.

I like the Limited seats, but they're softer and I don't have the cooling function that makes them stiffer.

Playing "where did the buckle go" has always been a part of folding rear seats. There's just no good way to have them always out and ready and still allow you to fold the seat without manually tucking them away each time.


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EVIC software updates:
-display song/artist info in the radio tab.
-allow custom sorting of menus (I would like the displays I use to be next to each other, and hide the ones I never use like the mph-to-kph).
-why does the temp/voltage/oil screen always stay at the last-used page, but the 4wd/steering angle page always revert back to 4wd-mode page when you switch away?
-something is wrong with the MPG calculation; mine is always too optimisitic, by 3-4 mpgs usually!
I'd love it if the center screen could should album art stills while playing music off phones or SD cards when the art is available. I also wish that you could choose what to do after you've played all the songs by an artist: wither start again or move on to something else if the Random button is selected. Of course, that would require a random playback that actually knows what songs have been played so it doesn't keep repeating songs before all have been played.

My fuel estimates jive pretty well with the app on my phone. Based on my motorcycle, which has no fuel gauge, so I have to reset the trip each fill up, it's accurate. Since the numbers that same app give me for the Jeep, I'm going to say it's darned close. The tire pressure readings seem to be within a pound, as well.

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-does anyone really notice a difference when "Eco" mode is turned on? It seems like it should do something, but I can't tell a difference in driving dynamics or mpgs.
The only difference I've noticed is whether the little light on the button is on or off. Switching to sport mode is a huge difference, though.

I rode around town on the same exact route at similar times with similar traffic flow, resetting the fuel economy average each time. There was only a 1 MPG difference. Then I did it again staying totally in manual mode and gained 5 MPG.

Eco mode could be made more Eco by doing the following:

- Don't downshift when a small amount of gas is pressed. If the driver presses a bit harder, then pop down one gear at a time until the driver stops pushing harder. In other words, set a hard 3K RPM limit unless the gas is pressed more than halfway to the floor. Anything less than that should keep the RPMs no higher than 2K.

- If not trying to accelerate, only downshift on hills to the next lowest gear that allows speed to be maintained. I've had it jump from 8th to 5th on hills with cruise control on if I'm in auto mode. Instead, tick to 7th, then go to 6th and on to 5th as needed to maintain speed. They also need to include an on board tilt circuit so when the nose starts to go above level, the Jeep will give a small amount of gas in anticipation of a hill approach.

- Stop engine braking unless in cruise mode, especially when I'm pressing the brakes. When braking, as soon as the RPMs drop to the low end of the gear range, the transmission should go to neutral, then kick into the mid range of the appropriate gear when I let off the brake. I really hate how the transmission goes down through the gears 1 by 1, especially when braking. It almost feels like the steering is pulling, even though it's not (I tested in a safe place by taking my hands off the wheel. It's just the feel).

- When I hit the bottom end of the range of the next higher gear, shift up to it, even if I'm going down hill. It drives me nuts to be going 45 and it's stuck in 5th or 6th instead of moving up to 7th.

- Always start off in 2nd in eco mode. 2nd has more than enough power to get moving with no issue and the shift from 1st to 2nd in eco mode is almost instant, anyway. This would also eliminate the rough 1-2 and 2-1 shifts.
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:18 PM
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How about a 'fuel remaining' reading that goes down to zero, as other cars do. Currently it counts down to 50km then changes to LOW. You are on your own after that
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How about a 'fuel remaining' reading that goes down to zero, as other cars do. Currently it counts down to 50km then changes to LOW. You are on your own after that
I suspect that it's a choice based on the uncertainty left when fuel gets that low...the fuel level measurement isn't super precise and how folks drive when they're sprinting to the gas stations varies, too. I know when the light goes on in my MY12, I have just a hair over a gallon and a half, give or take before "really being empty".
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They will never, ever let you adjust the power seat while driving. If one person accidentally floors the accelerator and wrecks while messing with the seat, they would absolutely sue.
I don't know that I agree with that.

I can still adjust my power seats while driving, but I can't get it to go to my memory setting. My wife and I have close-ish driving positions, so I don't usually notice the seat needs adjusting until I'm already off on my way, and that's when it won't let me get to the memory setting.

This is my first Jeep with memory (and power!) seats, but the handful of other memory-seat cars I've owned (GMs & Hondas) have always allowed me to recall the memory position while driving.

Thanks for your other responses, btw! I wonder if the "Eco" button is mostly for the Hemi drivers? Any Hemi guys notice if Eco mode helps at all?

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My dad's 2015 F-150 has 3 memory seat settings, plus lets me set and recall the settings while driving. Hell, the Jeep doesn't even let you do it while stopped in Drive.


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That's not adaptive. Adaptive would be to where it's constantly scanning the road and adjusting the suspension for a better ride. Something similar to what the SRT has.
The SRT doesn't do that. It has shocks that are electronically adjustable from regular to sport and track modes. It has nothing to do with road conditions.

The feature you are talking about is only on the $150k Mercedes S-class and other super high end luxury cars as far as I know. Personally, I'd say the air suspension is way better over rough roads than any other car I've driven.

I would like to see it more easily user adjustable. I want to keep it in Aero mode without being in sport. Or disable aero mode sometimes when going faster than 50mph. The road I take to work has 10-15 traffic lights in 20 miles, but enough space between them that I get up to 60-70 mph. So my suspension is adjusting in and out of aero mode easily 20-30 times a day unless I keep it in sport, which isn't necessary.
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I don't know that I agree with that.

I can still adjust my power seats while driving, but I can't get it to go to my memory setting. My wife and I have close-ish driving positions, so I don't usually notice the seat needs adjusting until I'm already off on my way, and that's when it won't let me get to the memory setting.

This is my first Jeep with memory (and power!) seats, but the handful of other memory-seat cars I've owned (GMs & Hondas) have always allowed me to recall the memory position while driving.

Thanks for your other responses, btw! I wonder if the "Eco" button is mostly for the Hemi drivers? Any Hemi guys notice if Eco mode helps at all?

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Thanks for your other responses, btw! I wonder if the "Eco" button is mostly for the Hemi drivers? Any Hemi guys notice if Eco mode helps at all?
For those of us that have a 2014, we have to push the button every time we start the car. Insanely annoying.

Eco mode keeps you in the highest gear possible at all times. Pretty sure it'll put you in 8th gear by the time you hit 40mph. I've never figured out if it really works because I haven't left it on more than 15 minutes. I tried it for highway driving, but when I want to pass someone, there is zero power.
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