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Glowing Fifth Gear Review

So the fifth gear team all agree its a "cracking motor":

http://fwd.channel5.com/fifth-gear/v...grand-cherokee

The pricing was the only big downside they picked on which, in the UK at least, is probably true:

UK WK2 Overland CRD: GBP 44,000

Equiv Land Rover: GBP 50,000 ish

Equiv Toureg: GBP 47,000 ish

Contrast...

AUS Overland CRD: AUD 75,000

AUS Equiv LR4 (HSE with options): AUD 115,000

AUS Equiv Toureg (with options): AUD 135,000

I really don't understand vehicle pricing. It seems to bear little to no resemblance to the cost of actually building the things at all!
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:25 AM
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

They looked & talk like Amateurs on U tube.
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

Finally!! I have been waiting for Top Gears review of the new WKII. They ought to be ashamed they were beaten by Fifth Gear. Still a great review since the Brits are always so critical.
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

What I found a little irritating with the testers was the fact that their test trail had a bunch of rocks. They spent quite a bit of time, three adults, trying to find the right mode for rocks in the Jeep. They couldn't just try the "rocks" mode instead of debating "mud/water," "snow?" Instead of being entertaining they looked more like idiots. Then they based their final score on price. I agree that it should have some factor, but 3 points? I think they were just saving a higher score for the new Range Rover.
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

I am glad to see that Fifth Gear has done a proper test of the Grand Cherokee, both off and On road.

Neither Fifth Gear nor Top Gear are ever very serious with there commentary or comparison but the track work usually speaks volumes for the cars capabilities of the cars they test.

Of course the test vehicle was an Overland CRD equipped with Quadra-lift so it was not that fast to begin with but, it did have adaptive suspension and it also was testing on a wet test track some the export only V rated all season Kumhos can't be all the bad.

The Cherokee/Grand Cherokee technically was the SUV that started the Upmarket SUV rage. The german marques came in and stole the spotlight but at the same time the Owners of Daimler Chrysler also held back by cost cutting and sticking with the live axle

It is a shame to see that the Ford Explorer and Expedition switched to IRS back in 2002 and Jeep only doing this now in 2011.

Jeeps have always performed pretty well when equipped properly and I will say this even the cheapest laredo leaves you with an initial feeling of quality by the time you get into an Overland you are knocked flat on you ass by all the Upscale trim peice and details.


You all my not agree with the scoring but that is a different country with different needs and there impression of SUV or Estate 4X4s are different and you have to Realize the Great Britain is the home of the pioneer of the LUXURY SUV the RANGE ROVER which is technically the benchmark all other LUXURY SUV get compared to then it come to luxury and off road prowess. We can also add the RANGE ROVER are not the poster child for being reliable vehicle either but they never seem to factor that into a review.
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

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What I found a little irritating with the testers was the fact that their test trail had a bunch of rocks. They spent quite a bit of time, three adults, trying to find the right mode for rocks in the Jeep. They couldn't just try the "rocks" mode instead of debating "mud/water," "snow?" Instead of being entertaining they looked more like idiots. Then they based their final score on price. I agree that it should have some factor, but 3 points? I think they were just saving a higher score for the new Range Rover.
Come on... how many people would watch a car show if there wasnt a bit of acting/drama... after all most people don't post about their cars on forums on the internet!

I think all they were highlighting is that the Jeep's terrain software isnt quite as intuative as the Land Rover's... sounds like you actually have to read the Jeep's manual first.
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Come on... how many people would watch a car show if there wasnt a bit of acting/drama... after all most people don't post about their cars on forums on the internet!

I think all they were highlighting is that the Jeep's terrain software isnt quite as intuative as the Land Rover's... sounds like you actually have to read the Jeep's manual first.
I guess you're right. However, I kept screaming (in my head) "JUST LEAVE IT IN AUTO if you don't know which mode to put it in!"
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

I know what you mean. They thought it was complicated....there is no car on the market that you do not have to shift to neutral first before switching into low range. Come on if they drove range rovers before this setup is far easier to use.
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I know what you mean. They thought it was complicated....there is no car on the market that you do not have to shift to neutral first before switching into low range. Come on if they drove range rovers before this setup is far easier to use.
Funny you should say that. I thought I could just put my Jeep in Lo without putting it into neutral and all that happened was the light would come on then go out. I tried driving 2-3mph while doing pressing the button and that didn't work. It wasn't until I put the truck in neutral that it finally kicked in.
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

All in All that review is BS. Rock mode for what, some gravel stony road. Pls, give me a break. GC will do that road in auto mode without a problem. Pricing, that is another story but it is still lower then VW and LR. Wait and you will see that that what they complain about GC- 44000 will not be a problem when LR come to question.
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Funny you should say that. I thought I could just put my Jeep in Lo without putting it into neutral and all that happened was the light would come on then go out. I tried driving 2-3mph while doing pressing the button and that didn't work. It wasn't until I put the truck in neutral that it finally kicked in.
Good thing it actually tells people in the EVIC to slow and put in N before shifting.
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Re: Glowing Fifth Gear Review

These Brits make the vehicle reviewers at Consumer Reports seem like rocket scientists.
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