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Old 08-23-2011, 01:39 PM
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

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What's the difference between and BMW and a porcupine?! The pricks are on the inside!! Muhahahaha jk enjoy the Beemer
Actually "beemer" is a motorcycle. Bimmer is the car.

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Old 08-23-2011, 01:57 PM
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

Although it definately sounds like your WK2 was an exception to a relatively solid WK2 Jeep platform, your in for a big suprise if your going to BMW for reliability. Every single person I know had all sorts of issues with their BMW's. Not saying they are bad cars because obviously they are sweet, but from a reliability standpoint german cars are for sure not at the top of the list. The Overland has hands down the most options of any car I know all bundled into one package for a relatively decent price. Unfortunately the 3 series Bimmers dont get many toys and features...compared to an Overland equipped with adaptive cruise tech package.

Funny thing is I own neither of the above mentioned cars lol. I currently drive a 2007 Acura TL Type S 6mt. Im just posting info from what I have read and gathered from actual owners :-)

Enjoy the 3 series! If its anything like my buddies fully optioned new 335IS with optional 19" wheels its gonna be sweet!
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Sorry to see you go however I don't want to be that guy but so far so good with my Overland....It's Definitely an Awesome Jeep. To each his own perhaps. Good luck.
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

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Actually "beemer" is a motorcycle. Bimmer is the car.
Good to know, thanks!
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

Trading your 2011 WK2, with problems, for a used 2011 BMW, with ?. Ever think that the BMW was traded because it was/is a lemon. Any possibility to see the BMW shop/warranty records to see what has been done? Just asking.
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

I checked the BMW's service records and did a thorough check of the car, because my big question was why was this car turned in? It's pretty sweet and looks clean. Has only been in for an oil change, clean car fax etc. If it is a lemon, it's used, so I won't be taking the hit in depreciation.

I'm not saying all Jeeps are unreliable, but I have owned 6 of them the last 2 were horrifying. Our past three BMW's have been great, my last BMW 2007 328xi with 57k miles on it when I got rid of it and it was amazing. That's just my experience

Plus I don't have to pay for any service for the next few years. I only keep cars 2-3 years so it's a nice feature. Jeep has not stuck by my vehicle thus far I'm actually STILL waiting from a call from the dealer and an engineer at Jeep. I can't say I will not go back to a Jeep in a couple years, but I need to see a sharp improvement in reliability/customer service. Looking at bimmerforum vs jeepgarage there are far less issues reported on the BMW's (335i with the N54 engine being the exception). Truecar.com also shows the 2011 Jeep having a lot of trouble versus the BMW 3. I couldn't justify getting back into another one.

This wasn't an easy decision to make and I have been an avid fan of jeeps since 1994 when we got our first Grand Cherokee, we have had over 10+ including other family members I have recommended them to, but with each one, I have been getting more problems. At first I thought it was just luck, but when it's more consistent it's just bad quality. I'm not excited that I feel the need to get out of my Jeep, but when it has lurched forward in PARK twice while starting it, I feel it's not only a mess, but a safety issue.
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

I sold my '08 M3 sedan to buy my 2011 Overland. The M3 was trouble free for the 13 months I owned it. Before the M I had an '08 335i which had a lot of issues but they were all fixed under warranty to my satisfaction.

It sucks you had so many problems with your Cherokee. Look at the bright side though. You can enjoy your Bimmer for a year or so and then come back and get a Diesel Cherokee hopefully.
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

I really can't blame you for going with the BMW. When I went through this same experience I did go with another JGC only because that's what I really wanted. I will say though it was really tough to give them any more money. When you buy something new you expect it to be defect free and if its not you expect them to take care of it. If they can't repair they should replace it and it shouldn't cost you a dime. That's not the way it works though. Your supposed to spend all your time trying to get it repaired and when they can't fix it it's considered normal operation. I did go with a second Jeep and it did cost me money to do it which is rediculous if you think about it. Then with the second one I have still have some issues nothing serious that they couldn't fix, but I still have to take it in and wait for parts to be ordered and then installed. I like my Jeep, but I say good luck with the BMW I'm sure the quality will be better if nothing else.
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

Thanks JP467, you have been again a lot of help through the whole process. I hope under Fiat's guidance that Jeep/Chrysler can improve their dealer/customer service and improve the Grand Cherokee's reliability. Depending on what the future holds I will look into a diesel Grand Cherokee. Otherwise, I think I will really enjoy the BMW. It's got the single turbo engine, N55, which has been trouble free so far (versus the N54). I was afraid of having little issues with another Jeep and after the Herb Chamber's sales team gave me less for a trade than the BMW dealer and basically wanted MSRP minus a few rebates on a 2011, I was done with Jeep and Herb Chambers. The general manager was suppose to call me yesterday on the final numbers to replace my car, still waiting on that, but I'm not holding my breath since my BMW deal is happening Friday. I'm sad about the whole Jeep experience and excited for the BMW.
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

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I miss my 335. Add a little Vishnu and it will be fast as hell.
+1. We just signed the lease for the wife's WK2 X package, while I drive a CPO'd e92 335i. Best of both worlds!

The prick joke was hilarious too
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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

jeepin4ever, good luck with the MY11 335xi. Being the last model year (for the E90) and the N55 engine the car should be very reliable. I had an 08 335i vert (N54) and never had a problem. My only issue was with the RFT's used with the sport pkg (18"). I debated switching to non-RFT's but in the end didn't want to spend the $$$.

If you are planning on keeping the car 5+ years use the old school maintenance schedule and change the diff & transmission fluids at 30k.

I miss my 335i (lot's of torque and HP) and now considering adding an M3 coupe to the stable. The JGC is good and very practical but doesn't provide much in the fun factor.

There is some good information found on the bimmerfest forum. Otherwise submit a post back here as to your experiences with the 335xi.





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Re: Good Bye Jeep, hello BMW

I'll share my story since I own both a 1994 grand GC limited and a 2000 528i. I have 270,000 miles on my Jeep. Same motor, ready for this? same tranny, never had an issue with the tranny. The only thing I replaced in 270k miles is an alternator, radiator, water pump, master cylinder, fuel pump, and two batteries. Regular maintenance (tune ups and fluids, etc). My BMW has 210,000 miles. at 72K miles I heard a loud pop in the motor, the check engine light came on, but the car ran, so I drove it directly to the dealer, about 10 miles from me. By the time I got there, the temperature gauge was all the way on the hot side. The engine got so hot, that I damaged the block beyond repair. They told me I probably blew the head gasket, and if I had pulled over and had it towed, it would have been an $ 1800 repair instead of $ 7,000 new engine. BMW gave me $ 1500 towards it (I was out of warranty) which was very nice of BMW north america. Since then the car has been flawless! a few suspension parts, and several tires due to the negative camber. 1 tune up, and 1 fuel pump, 1 battery, an a cooling overhaul(water pump, radiotor, hoses, thermostat). The car is so solid, I cant believe it drives so well with 11 years of service and that many miles.

My wife and I sooner or later will have to replace the Jeep GC. We love the new GC overland. We are looking to buy it by the end of this year or the next time my GC breaks down. I love the new X5 but the one I like costs $ 70K, and the Jeep is just so such a bargain at $ 42,000K

My brother has an X5 2004 4.8is and it has been trouble free for 72K miles.

Would I buy another BMW? in a heart beat, and since my 94 GC has been a complete work horse, I would and I am buying a 2012 overland V8.

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