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That's a change coming to the '16 V8? Oh cool!

Yeah, all engines get a new electric power steering system. I'm excited for it, I like the lighter steering.

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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

The 2016 electric steering for all engines will have 3 selectable turning sensitivity selections, and include quicker turns (less steering wheel movement) at low speeds such as in parking garages.

From the 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee press release via wk2jeeps.com:

2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0-liter EcoDiesel, 3.6-liter and 5.7-liter models receive electric power steering with customizable settings.

Grand Cherokee's steering also has been carefully calibrated for the right amount of assistance whether cruising the parking lot or a twisty two-lane mountain road. Electric power steering adds new steering options, including Sport, Comfort and Normal.
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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

So....maybe the 2018 MY will be free of issues related to the 'new' power steering system. I wish they'd just get one MY with NO experimentation and NO need for the consumer to work out the bugs.

Maybe FCA should be paying us as test drivers.
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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

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So....maybe the 2018 MY will be free of issues related to the 'new' power steering system. I wish they'd just get one MY with NO experimentation and NO need for the consumer to work out the bugs.

Maybe FCA should be paying us as test drivers.
They already have the 2015 model year that accomplishes the "no changes" you're looking for.
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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

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Yeah, all engines get a new electric power steering system. I'm excited for it, I like the lighter steering.
I think the all electric steering of the 2016s will be different than what is currently in the 2014/2015 V6 WK2s. I think with the 2014/2015 there is still a physical connection between the steering wheel and the steering arms. All electric steering removes that connection so that they can add features such as self-parking and lane assist alert. I could be wrong, but I have driven some "all electric" steering vehicles and some feel like you are driving in a video game, very artificial.
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So....maybe the 2018 MY will be free of issues related to the 'new' power steering system. I wish they'd just get one MY with NO experimentation and NO need for the consumer to work out the bugs.

Maybe FCA should be paying us as test drivers.
LOL...and that's the last model year for this platform...
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I think the all electric steering of the 2016s will be different than what is currently in the 2014/2015 V6 WK2s. I think with the 2014/2015 there is still a physical connection between the steering wheel and the steering arms. All electric steering removes that connection so that they can add features such as self-parking and lane assist alert. I could be wrong, but I have driven some "all electric" steering vehicles and some feel like you are driving in a video game, very artificial.

Yes, I said 2016s all get "a new electric power steering." I never said that it was going to be anything like the 14-15 V6. My wife's Lexus has it and I like it, although it definitely does feel weird.
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Old 01-03-2016, 08:03 AM
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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

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You guys are fooling yourselves if you think there is only a 1.5 mpg difference.
Do you think the electronics in both cars are lying? This has been reported all over the place, not just in magazines or Internet articles. The V-6 is NOT that much more economical as far as fuel. Add in gas at under $2.00 @ gallon, and it's all but a moot point....... For now.

Now, if you want to argue cost vs. horsepower, you could possibly make an argument if it's worth it to pay an extra $3,200.00 to bump up the horsepower from 290 HP to 360 HP. $46.00 per HP isn't cheap. But you have to figure in torque as well. That's what makes all the difference towing. When you add it all up, the fuel "economy" issue between the 2 is hardly worth being concerned over. Especially when it's proven to be so little, and the HEMI V-8 is so much better for towing.
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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

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Awesome review... When I purchased my Summit, I hadn't ever heard of the Altitude editions of the GC. When I started seeing them on the road and on this forum, it made me wish I had knew about them and considered before buying my Summit. I chose the Summit mainly because I liked the fenders better than the other models. The interior details also sold me. Then I saw the HAs had the same fenders. And I wonder if I could have gotten a cooler looking HA, for less $ than my Summit. Also, my Jeep does kind of feel like a tank sometimes. I also don't get really good gas mileage. (I don't try to, I only drive it in Sport Mode and Eco is off). I pretend/wish I have a v8 or an SRT
Of course I like SRTs, although I think they are too sporty, if that makes sense. And I don't think that interior could survive my girls throwing their juices and snacks all over it... The Summit seems to be made more for styling and for "mall crawling" vs being ready for off roading or a race track.
Which is good for me, since I won't be doing either of those. It seems like the HA might be a sporty version in between the Summit and SRT.
Plus I invested In an extended warranty, and Opti Coat on my Summit so I think I am going to stick with it.



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Re: Got a High Altitude V6 overnight. Compare to Summit V8.

No, the fuel economy isn't such a big issue. I drive about 30,000 miles/ year, and at 20 mpg for my V6 (it's probably better that that) and at $2/ gallon I spend about $3000 in fuel. A 10% savings (or more) over the V8 means I'm about $6 richer every week. The maintenance costs for the Hemi are a little higher, so call it $7 per week.

Not exactly going to break my budget.

All Billt pointed out the V8 initial cost is $3200. Over three years ownership that's another $20/ week. Now we're up to $27. So the savings pays for most of my cell phone bill.

In four years I've used my Jeep four times to tow something, the biggest being UHaul's 5x10 trailer, full of furniture for moving my son into an apartment 4 hours away. The only problem I had was the receiver rattling when the trailer was empty.
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^^All unibody vehicles do that. So technically you didn't have a problem
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Jeverall how do you like the Opti coat? I have a new HA and purchased the Opti coat but have not had it applied yet, just curious


I've only had it on for about 10 days, so I can't speak to the longevity or how it responds to a wash. However, so far so good. I was driving in the rain this weekend and the water was beading off my hood as soon as it hit. Also, love bug season is early this year, and I haven't found a single one on my Jeep. Today when I shut the hatch I noticed that there was some dirt that just fell right off the back. And I drive by some construction areas daily that usually blow dirt all over my truck. I think that now the dirt is blowing right off. 10 days later and still super glossy. Hopefully I won't need to wash or wax for a couple of years. From what I've heard just a high pressure rinse and a leaf blower are all that is needed.

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