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Old 05-25-2015, 12:26 AM
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

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This seems to indicate to me that this is probably at least 3 years away maybe more. I mean how long have they been talking about this Wagoneer?


What about the Gladiator Truck. I mean I remember seeing the concept in 06' or 07' at a Toledo, OH Jeep event. There was a brief mention of a truck in the future of Jeep recently by Sergio, but that has always been the rumor.



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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

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I agree with all comments, but I think the question for me why is this decision just being made now for a vehicle that was supposed to launch in 18 months or so? This seems to indicate to me that this is probably at least 3 years away maybe more. I mean how long have they been talking about this Wagoneer? I think it was 2013 then 2015 and now 2018 or later? I am just looking at this from the outside, but I think I understand why they are trying to merge with another automaker.
You're totally off base here. FCA is doing awesome and the stock is booming. I own some myself! The Wagoneer was pushed back because of exorbitant costs for the 2014 GC refresh and develolment of other key FCA vehicles. Its a numbers thing....nothing to.do with how FCA is doing financially etc. Jeep has broken sales records every single month sunce like 2011. Look up a synonym called EBITDA.
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It makes sense. Simplifying supply chain and development by unifying the "architectures" of two cars, rather than one and new CAFE requirements that demand a new type of powertrain. Better for me and my trade in plans. Also, even the previous vehicles WJ and WK seemed to have a longer production run, especially the WJ.

But it seems like all those who might be dissatisfied, now have a change to buy a hellcat of an SRT Jeep...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115052294229/2017-jeep-grand-cherokee-trackhawk-to-be-offered-with
Not gonna happen in 2017...trust what im saying and what milous is saying. Stay away from these online rags looking for hits.
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

My lease is up March of 2018...does that mean I'm going to miss the redesign by just a few months?
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

I'm concerned the "Platform" will be larger if it's gonna be shared with the Wagoneer.
I don't want any bigger of a GC and Cherokee is too small.
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

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My lease is up March of 2018...does that mean I'm going to miss the redesign by just a few months?

You can always extend your lease a few months if needed.


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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

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You're totally off base here. FCA is doing awesome and the stock is booming. I own some myself! The Wagoneer was pushed back because of exorbitant costs for the 2014 GC refresh and develolment of other key FCA vehicles. Its a numbers thing....nothing to.do with how FCA is doing financially etc. Jeep has broken sales records every single month sunce like 2011. Look up a synonym called EBITDA.
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My sense is that FCA gets it that they can't mess with basic Jeep thang which is a true mid-suv/truck with an up-scale luxo line and a more towards core jeep/off road line. I believe the Wagoneer will be the Escalade of the line based on Durango longer wheelbase but JGC still at its core.
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

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I'm concerned the "Platform" will be larger if it's gonna be shared with the Wagoneer.
I don't want any bigger of a GC and Cherokee is too small.
Platform and/or architecture simply are engineering specs for placement of crucial systems. It seems everyone struggles with this. Just because a vehicle shares the same platform does not mean that they are all the same exact size, have the same suspension, have the same wheelbase, the same engine, or the same capabilites. This helps you reuse parts where applicable, and lets you manufacturer the same vehicles on an assembly line. A manufacturer can choose to deviate on any of those areas as needed as long as they are willing to engineer around it. Which is the reason why you wont take a Dart off road, or get Quadralift on a Durango, etc.
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

Just as cherokee is not built on the same assembly line as GC I wouldn't expect a full size suv built on the same line as a mid size.

GC will be bigger or wagoner won't be a full size if they share the same platform (built on same assembly line).

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They will share the same platform but the chassis for the wagoneer will be stretched...just as it is for the durango
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Re: Grand Cherokee REDESIGN delayed till 2018

Our local car manufacturer did the same thing - only manufactured a single platform but had standard through to luxury versions of their sedan, two versions of a stretched luxury sedan, multiple variants of a sports wagon, and a ute/truck. All the same platform with extensive sharing of components, interior, etc yet considerable differences in the actual vehicle length, specifications, quality/type of materials, etc.
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