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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

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Why not get one of each?

The Wrangler will definitely be more fun. But -- especially if you run with the top off -- it will be noisy.

I use my Wrangler as my daily driver. About 11 months of the year, I run with a safari top. It is a fun vehicle. But forget having a conversation at highway speeds. My wife also hates driving the Wrangler because of its choppy ride.

It is still pretty practical. You would be surprised at how much stuff from Home Depot you can cram in to a two door Wrangler.

My Commander on the other hand is a much safer vehicle for my daughter and is smooth and quiet at highway speeds.
I won't have the space to get one of each, as much as I would like to. Also, I would definitely get the GC if I was driving others, especially kids, on a regular basis, but I'll just be driving myself 99% of the time.

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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

I own a '14 GC and a '97 Wrangler. Two different animals for two different purposes. The Wrangler is great for the summer with top down however its not an every day car. I would go down to an Overland GC and with rest buy a used Wrangler for my summer fun.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

I too think you might be happier in a Summit. From your posts, it sounds like the noise and comfort issues in a Wrangler might wear on you pretty fast. I have a 2015 Summit and I absolutely love it. As for the JGC not having any "Soul"...you can always do some mods and give it a little of your own "Soul", like I feel I have. Good luck and I am sure you will be happy with whatever you decide.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

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While I would get a Wrangler as a second car, I won't have the space. I also have to stick with Jeep (or really anything from FCA, but nothing else interests me) because they are buying it back on the condition that I buy another Jeep, and I don't feel like fighting any longer. Also, I would most likely end up with another Jeep anyway. I had a 2010 Lexus GX460. It was the most boring vehicle ever, not actually that nice (even the Overland is nicer), and drove, I promise you, like a Wrangler but with a smoother ride.

There's a Summit on the lot (Granite/Argentina, HEMI, Platinum Group, Rear DVD) that I am thinking of buying. It has exactly what I would get if I ordered, except it also has the rear DVD system. Here's another big issue I have with the Grand Cherokee: in two years, a MY2015 bought now will have been updated TWICE (first a light refresh for MY2016 before an all-new GC for MY2018). I wouldn't wait two years for a 2016, but I do think I'd feel like an idiot and would be very tempted to trade up, first for the 2016 and later for the 2018. An ownership experience when I regret buying something the whole time wouldn't be very fun. I'd also take a HUGE bath on resale value due to it being two generations behind after just two years. I'm also more tempted to take a chance on the Wrangler, as its resale value, especially in the Rubicon 10A/Rubicon X/Rubicon Hard Rock trim has been incredibly good (KBB has the 10A losing only ~$1000 in value after 2-3 years). If I hate it, I could trade it in and lose $1000-$5000 after a year, not $5,000-$15,000 like the Summit.

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Do you have any interest to lease instead of buy the Grand Cherokee? That may resolve your concern about refreshed and new model years. I just leased a 15 Overland back in March for a two year stint so I can be in line with a refreshed model in 2017. That way I can give the all new generation 2018 a year to work out the bugs and perhaps move into a 2019....unless of course, I find something else that catches my eye. I as well looked at the Wrangler but still couldn't get past the idea as a daily driver. I still prefer luxury over rugged anyway. Like you I had an early 2014 Overland V6. Due to all the problems I got rid of it and happy to say not one problem with the 2015 Overland V6 so far.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

That Summit should hold it's value pretty well compared to a less equipped vehicle, IMHO...and if you want to move up to the new platform sometime during the MY18 model year once the quirks are worked out, I suspect you'll still do fine on a resale or trade as there will be folks who will prefer a late model of the current platform to whatever the new platform is...some people just don't like change!
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For me when buying a car I buy what I want and never concern myself with depreciation and such. If I do that I am already setting myself to trade that car in even before I get it. I went with a 14 summit over a 15 end of last year since I got a hell of a deal and the 15 had nothing I needed to have. My plan is to keep this a long time...so long that depreciation won't be an issue then lol.

It all depends what your plan is. Maybe leasing could be your solution as someone else mentioned. Especially if you're worried about what's coming down the road in the near future.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

I've had both, multiple versions of each. Currently in a 2014 Summit. Would never, ever go back. I spend 3 to 4 months a year in NorCal and can't wait to get back this year with this vehicle. Had many Jeeps, but I've been waiting all my life for this one!
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

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Right now, I'm leaning towards the Wrangler. Also, I meant practicality in terms of space, comfort, technology, etc., as if any of that mattered, I wouldn't even be considering a two-door Wrangler.
I think you have pretty much answered that question. You are comparing the top trim of the most luxurious offering (JGC Summit) from Chrysler to something that is decent but serves an entirely different purpose.

Space- Wrangler has decent space but GC has much more- GC Wins

Comfort- Wrangler is comfortable for shorter trips but GC is luxuriously more comfortable for both short and long term trips- GC Wins

Technology- There is no contest here-too many things to list especially in Summit form, hence the difference in price- GC wins again

Now if we go into crazy off-roading, then that is an entirely different kettle of fish because Wrangler has a lot of advantages there along with another one of your caveats... price.

Basically my feeling about all this is that you are leaning towards the Wrangler more out of curiosity than looking at it from a longer term perspective. As a second vehicle, the Wrangler does have a lot of fun but you will grow tired of it especially if most of your driving involves city streets and highways. Unless you plan to off-road at least 50% of the time and I am talking serious off-roading, then you may go for it. At the end, its your choice. Many of us have already said pretty much all there is to in this thread, and I don't think there is much to add. Good luck in your choice!
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

I own a 2013 Jk Rubicon 6spd manual and a 2014 JGC Overland Hemi qdII.
I daily drive the Ruby (quality lift, 35's, 5.13 gears fully armored etc etc) but it was bought to be wheeled hard (parts breakage and body damage is it's life) and is the quintessential vehicle for doing such. A quality lift does make the ride better, but it likely goes without saying it is still nowhere near the same ball park as the JGC. FYI the JK has over $20k in quality mods., all for function, none for aesthetics... and it's not finished. What I'm getting at is, if you are going to "use" the JK then the point of price soon makes the JGC the more economical rig.

My wife daily drives the Overland.
I would gladly trade her any day of the week for daily driving purposes. We use the JGC for most errands, all road trips and going out to diner.
We do however use the Ruby with top and doors removed for short/quick errands or "going for a drive"...

My advice, unless you plan on serious off roading, the JGC is hands down the better rig.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

I have 67K miles on my 2012 Wrangler. I still have a ball driving it around. Don't worry about the dog hair or dirt getting in or out. I commute 30 or so miles to work each way and have no issues with the rough ride or noise. The car is fun!

That being said, it is no fun on a road trip. The back seats are uncomfortable as heck and you feel a little abused by the vehicle after an hour or so behind the wheel.

The four wheel drive system will do you right off road, but for rainy or snowy day drives about town, the car is a rear wheel driver. You don't throw it in 4WD and hit the streets unless there is a good covering of snow.

I strongly advise you to consider the 4 door. The longer wheelbase is more stable and there is very little cargo room in the 2 door. Also, unless you get the soft top, you are not likely to remove the roof. It is heavy and without the installation of a garage roof-lift, it is a serious pain to remove. The "Freedom" tops on the other hand are easily removed and replaced. I take my "freedom" panels off regularly and have had ZERO problems with leaks in the hard top.

That being said, I read this forum because my next car will probably be the Summit. I want the tech toys and comfort on the longer highway trips we take.

Good luck but to be honest, you saying you are deciding between the Wrangler and the GC is kind of like saying for your next meal you either want flapjacks or a steak. Both are fabulous to eat but decide first if you are in the mood for breakfast or dinner then go from there. They are very very different cars. ( and meals )

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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

I own both. Bought a '15 GC Summit for myself and a '15 Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock Edition for my wife. Tough to compare the two because they are so totally different. Around town, the Rubicon is a blast to drive, but no so much at highway speeds. Lots of wind noise. In Texas, most of our highway speed limits are 75mph and the Rubicon gets so noisy (mainly wind related), it can be a little tough to talk on your phone using the bluetooth. The GC is extremely quiet at these speeds. Overall, the GC is a better all around choice, but the Rubicon is a lot of fun. My wife loves driving it. In fact, this is her second Rubicon. You really can't go wrong with either vehicle......good luck with your decision!
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Re: Grand Cherokee Summit vs. Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock

A noise related point about the Wrangler. The tires on the Rubicon are the noisiest of the tire options on the stock Wranglers. They also will give you the least tire life. I hear 30K miles is lucky.


I drive a Sahara and have over 67K miles on my original set and while I wouldn't use them on snow, they are AOK for the SoCal weather I commute in. They are in their last few thousand miles of treadlife, but I anticipate doing 70K. The majority of the noise in the cabin at speed is wind noise although a fair amount of mechanical and road noise is there as well. Car will beat you up on longer jaunts, but is fun while doing so. Unless you really want the lockers, the non Rubicon limited slip rear end may serve you better in the long run.

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