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Headed to CO, what Jeep to take?

I'm headed to Ouray CO in a week, and I am having a helluva time deciding what rig to bring. All along the plan has been the hawk, now I am starting to second guess myself. I have done Moab and CO countless times in built rigs, and this time the original thought was the hawk should be comfy and capable enough. Now I'm second guessing myself and feeling like maybe I'll have some remorse once there not having the top and doors to remove, tinker with, etc. I have a Ram 2500 I would tow the TJ with. The hawk I would just load the fam up and head west. If only I had a two place trailer, but I don't.

a bit about the jeeps:
TJ is geared, locked, lifted, longarmed, caged, etc.
Hawk is bone stock with the addition of 275 Duratracs. I also have a set of JK hardrock wheels for it, but I'd rather not scratch them on on the trip as my wife has already curbed the OEM wheels.

So what would you do if you were me? I only get out there every two years-ish so I hate to find out once there I should have brought the TJ, or wish I had gone with the hawk for comfort and convenience in getting around. Theres plenty of street time headed from town to town and trail to trail.

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I'm headed to Ouray CO in a week, and I am having a helluva time deciding what rig to bring. All along the plan has been the hawk, now I am starting to second guess myself. I have done Moab and CO countless times in built rigs, and this time the original thought was the hawk should be comfy and capable enough. Now I'm second guessing myself and feeling like maybe I'll have some remorse once there not having the top and doors to remove, tinker with, etc. I have a Ram 2500 I would tow the TJ with. The hawk I would just load the fam up and head west. If only I had a two place trailer, but I don't.

a bit about the jeeps:
TJ is geared, locked, lifted, longarmed, caged, etc.
Hawk is bone stock with the addition of 275 Duratracs. I also have a set of JK hardrock wheels for it, but I'd rather not scratch them on on the trip as my wife has already curbed the OEM wheels.

So what would you do if you were me? I only get out there every two years-ish so I hate to find out once there I should have brought the TJ, or wish I had gone with the hawk for comfort and convenience in getting around. Theres plenty of street time headed from town to town and trail to trail.

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1st, How many going ? 2nd, The wife did what to your rims ? 3rd, Doesn't seem like money is an issue, but YOU need to decide what the "gangs" priorities are on this trip. So many things to do in SW Colorado (my priority is fly fishing and second the trail trips for the scenery and then the camping !).
IF the Truck has the room (you did not specify other than a 2500), then towing the Wrangler is in play, IF nobody will be Disappointed when left behind when hitting the trails in it ! OF Course the truck would not be needed IF the Off Road Capable Trailhawk G.C. is Trail Rated (yes?) . Did you by the Trailhawk for your "ego" or because you wanted to "get out their" and have fun ? There's Responsible Dad-like off roading, and then there are more hardcore stuff reserved I presume for the TJ !
WOW, wish I had your dilemma choices . . . lucky you, to have all the wheels AND a Family to share it all with!
Sorry if I gave you too much to think about . . . and which ever way you all choose, Always have the back-up plans planned out ahead of time ! Can never have too many granola bars stuffed in the trunk along with a few bottles of water just in case spending an unexpected nite out in the wilderness (especially at 12000 feet ! Which reminds me, gets colder up their than 5000 feet lower !
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edit - ps; IF you take the G.C. why not document the off road / camping / ? stuff at my Thread - "SHOW & TELL, WK2 . . . " ? Your trip is exactly the kind of thing I started it for ! Have a Fun Safe Trip and . . . PICS, PICS, PICS are required, ha ha !
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Re: Headed to CO, what Jeep to take?

1. Family of 4 - Myself, wife, and my 6 and 7 year old boys.
2. scraped the stock one on a curb. They have damage and my rubi wheels are perfect. If I run them in CO, I am sure I will scrape them at some point...so I am not chancing that. I will save the rubi wheels for the street.
3. Trails, sight seeing, and family fun. I am not going to make all ten days about wheeling, but we will most likely spend part of most days running a trail.

Truck is a crew cab, plenty of room.
TJ has child size racing seats in it and can accomodate all four of us. I wouldn't drive the TJ very far - I'd tow it to CO, after that it would be driven everywhere. I did just that two years ago with it, and it was fine. Just isn't the most streetable rig with f&R auto lockers.

Did I buy the hawk for my ego? Ummmmm....OK, nice way to put it. I bought it because I am a jeep guy, and I was smitten with it. All trailhawks are trail rated, so Yes it is.

When I was there last time, I thought many times that there was not a single trail I ran (all the most difficult in the area) that I wouldn't have run the hawk on. I've run some waaaaaay more difficult trails near montrose and elsewhere in the state I wouldn't take my TJ through (took my buggy back in the day) but in the San Juans, there just doesn't seem like there is much thats too hardcore. So I feel the hawk is capable enough, I just am not sure it'll pack the fun factor my TJ does.

Either rig that makes the trek will get lots of pics. If its the hawk, I will start a thread.
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Take the TJ and have fun. I go to Ouray and Silverton at least once a year.
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Re: Headed to CO, what Jeep to take?

[If I may comment though, you seem a bit short and young to be driving either a GC or a Wrangler]

What do you really want to do, and what does the boss really want to do in Colorado?

You can do surprising off roading with the hawk, particularly if you have the air suspension. However, it ain't no Wrangler.

On the other hand, as the gentleman above noted, the cargo carrying capacity of the WK2 is quite a bit higher, and should you come across something truly memorable to take home, it can handle a much larger trailer. Young kids tend to like Wranglers in shorter bursts--whereas in a WK2, they can be put in comfortable seats to snooze off the boring parts so they don't drive you bonkers.
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[If I may comment though, you seem a bit short and young to be driving either a GC or a Wrangler]
Lol how so?
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Lol how so?
Look at the photo...
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Re: Headed to CO, what Jeep to take?

OP. I think if comes down to what the "family collective" goal for the vacation is. If they also want to participate in the trail stuff, than the JGC is the way to go, even if there are a few places that you might decide to avoid taking it in the wild based on capability. If they just want to hang out someplace while you play, then having the Wrangler along for you might work better as you have an even more capable off-road setup and they still have a vehicle to get to whatever they are interested in at the same time.
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Re: Headed to CO, what Jeep to take?

Depends on how much wheeling you are going to do. If you head out with the hawk and break something it is your only mode of transportation. If you take the ram and Tj, at least you can trailer it home.
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1. Family of 4 - Myself, wife, and my 6 and 7 year old boys.
2. scraped the stock one on a curb. They have damage and my rubi wheels are perfect. If I run them in CO, I am sure I will scrape them at some point...so I am not chancing that. I will save the rubi wheels for the street.
3. Trails, sight seeing, and family fun. I am not going to make all ten days about wheeling, but we will most likely spend part of most days running a trail.

Truck is a crew cab, plenty of room.
TJ has child size racing seats in it and can accomodate all four of us. I wouldn't drive the TJ very far - I'd tow it to CO, after that it would be driven everywhere. I did just that two years ago with it, and it was fine. Just isn't the most streetable rig with f&R auto lockers.

Did I buy the hawk for my ego? Ummmmm....OK, nice way to put it. I bought it because I am a jeep guy, and I was smitten with it. All trailhawks are trail rated, so Yes it is.

When I was there last time, I thought many times that there was not a single trail I ran (all the most difficult in the area) that I wouldn't have run the hawk on. I've run some waaaaaay more difficult trails near montrose and elsewhere in the state I wouldn't take my TJ through (took my buggy back in the day) but in the San Juans, there just doesn't seem like there is much thats too hardcore. So I feel the hawk is capable enough, I just am not sure it'll pack the fun factor my TJ does.

Either rig that makes the trek will get lots of pics. If its the hawk, I will start a thread.
Sounds like you've had it ALL figured out even before you started this post ? ?
And Now you have just Reassured yourself with my questions answered, but I do wish you would consider a few pics on "SHOW & TELL . . ." - it's not a thread about Me, I have no ego in the thing, but it simply gives me pleasure seeing others having fun in the great outdoors and it gives me hope & inspiration to get back out their in my new G.C. ! Have a Safe Journey.
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Re: Headed to CO, what Jeep to take?

I just posted about similar issue! (sort of) Except I have a STOCK TJ out in CO and use it for off road and drive there with my WK2. I agree the WK2 is nice to drive and you can get there faster in one than trailering a TJ, but that jeep is sweet. I don't want too many people to read this but shucks here it goes. Take the jeep, go to Marble, eat at slo groovin' bbq, then go over Scofield pass in the TJ (NOT the WK2!),, or go over lead king basin road in either, but I would not subject my WK2 to that road.

I'm not sure I'd stay married if I took my family over Scofield pass road in any vehicle. And it is dangerous so be advised.

There is really no better all around vehicle (90mph in lux across the plains to rock crawling in the hills) than a WK2 despite its faults, and the TJ you have makes most stuff look easy. I load my wk2 with roof pod and rear bikes and haul a##.

Take the WK2 and enjoy your family with room and comfort in the hills.
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I'm headed to Ouray CO in a week, and I am having a helluva time deciding what rig to bring. All along the plan has been the hawk, now I am starting to second guess myself. I have done Moab and CO countless times in built rigs, and this time the original thought was the hawk should be comfy and capable enough. Now I'm second guessing myself and feeling like maybe I'll have some remorse once there not having the top and doors to remove, tinker with, etc. I have a Ram 2500 I would tow the TJ with. The hawk I would just load the fam up and head west. If only I had a two place trailer, but I don't.

a bit about the jeeps:
TJ is geared, locked, lifted, longarmed, caged, etc.
Hawk is bone stock with the addition of 275 Duratracs. I also have a set of JK hardrock wheels for it, but I'd rather not scratch them on on the trip as my wife has already curbed the OEM wheels.

So what would you do if you were me? I only get out there every two years-ish so I hate to find out once there I should have brought the TJ, or wish I had gone with the hawk for comfort and convenience in getting around. Theres plenty of street time headed from town to town and trail to trail.
How far away do you live from your destination? Colorado was a 36 hour drive for me with a trailer hauling two ATV's and camping gear.
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