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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

Trucks are body on frame not uni-body like the GC. Check the axel ratings and the GVWR on the door sticker.

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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

BigCat, fyi, I have a 2014 Laredo E with ORA1 and Tow Package, and it did come with 17" wheels. But I don't recall the tow package description mentioning HD brakes.


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V8 gets big brakes, not tow package
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

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I have a 7200# trailer that I plan on towing. Dealer said I could add tow pack after the fact but the Class IV tow pack looks more extensive

I have a 2012 Laredo with the 5.7 hemi. I am having the tow hitch installed from the dealer tomorrow and I am buying a brake controller.

My question is, will it pull? and will it over heat?

I checked and looks like I have three coolers (radiator, trans and a/c) up front. The biggest thing I saw was a different fan and alt, which I assume are easy to swap. But I could be way wrong, I am used to wrenching on much older cars so I could be way off base.

Any help?
I'm not a Jeep expert, but I have towed trailers for hundreds of thousands of miles.

There are several issues here. First issue is safety. If you have enough braking power and any necessary stability enhancements, the Jeep can tow that trailer safely. Best to get an all-in-one weight distributing and anti-sway hitch, such as an Equal-i-zer or Reese Dual Cam.

Next issue is not ruining the drive train. If your coolers are equal to those in the tow package, you should be fine. Just bring up the trans temp readout and watch it during long hill climbs, if you have any concern.

Then there's the issue of warranty. If you tow that heavy trailer without the factory tow package, have a problem, and admit to the dealership that you towed the heavy trailer, expect them to deny warranty coverage. Even if you don't admit to towing anything, they still may suspect it and deny coverage. So you take your chances.
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

HD brakes are only for the V8 (and prob the Diesel). I have the 3.6L V6 Tow pkg and the standard brakes. my understanding is the HD brakes won't fit on the 17" wheels due to the larger brake caliper size.
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

Bottom line, trade in the WK2 if you plan on towing a 7200 lb trailer. You are at the max towable weight, WITHOUT adding fuel, passengers, water, gear etc. The wheel base is short to begin with on the WK2, and you need a truck with a frame for pulling that size and weight safely. Sure the Hemi has the grunt to physically pull the trailer, but it will not be safe in an emergency. WD hitch, coolers, big brakes, Class IV hitch all are good things to have, but are cancelled out basically when you are towing max weight.
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

SlipAway, the particular vehicle in question is limited to 5K lbs because it does not have the factory towing option. OP already acknowledged that.
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

What the "Factory Towing Package" included depends on which engine and whether 4x2 or 4x4. Prices are usually the same but what you get with it varies. With a 4x2 3.6 it is basically the hitch (which is a Class IV receiver), wiring, and "full size" 18" spare tire and that is all.

Also if you look in the owner's manual you will find that with a 5,000 lb limit you should not exceed 40 sq ft of frontal area. With the 7,400 rating (requires Hemi or Diesel and a few other things) you are limited to 60 sq ft. This is not in the spec sheet.

Since I pull a 3500 lb low profile camper it is not an issue and get 17-18 mpg at 65 mph with my '12.
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

OP,

I would just look at brakes, load leveling suspension and hitch. If you can get these retrofitted to the tow package spec (or replace a load balance hitch for suspension) with a reasonable cost do so. If not then you might have a safety issue.
The jeep is very capable and the hemi is strong enough, but you don't want to have your brakes fading on you with an extra 7000lb in tow, or get jack knifed trailer.
Another factor is that package price deteriorates with time.
E.G. installing a package for a 2012 will cost more then the KBB value for that package when trading.
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Re: HEAVY Towing w/o Class IV tow pack

I would verify the coolers you think you have. Trans cooler is a must. A higher flow cooling fan might be in order. A WD hitch is a must in my mind. I wouldn't trailer anything with that weight without one plus brakes.

I've trailered a 26' upright camping trailer all over the east coast with a 1975 Chevelle wagon, 350. Spec's at that time said I couldn't do it. Put a trans cooler and high flow fan on. I had no problems towing for the 4 years that I've done it.

You have to remember that most off the limits in the specifications are there to protect the company from misuse of the vehicle during warranty. They are great guide lines, but all companies are conservative with their numbers and have a margin that they deal with. Most of the time it is 10 percent.

My 2015 Cherokee Limited w/tow package is rated at 5000/5100 pounds, depending which brochure you read. I tow my boat and trailer, rated at 5150 lbs. without issue.

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