For those of you with the Hemi, what kind of gas mileage are you getting? i hear you can get better than what has been advertised. With gas at $3.25 i sure hope so.
I drive pretty hard (70-80mph most of the time) and remote start alot, so I have been seeing around 14 overall. However, I would seem that when driving normally it averages around 18-20. That said, I bought the hemi for the power and an SUV for the capability. If MPG was what I cared about I would have bought a smart car or something.
I am using the remote starter a lot too because of the cold. Around town I am average 14-15mpg. When I fill it up and take a trip I get 21-23mpg on the highway. I averaged 21.5mpg on my last trip going into a 10-15mph headwind with an average speed of 72mph.
I do have to say that if you want that kind of mileage you can't use the cruise control. With the cruise set at 75mph I average around 19mpg. With the cruise off I drive like there is an egg between my foot and the accelerator. Most of the time, even on inclines it holds 4cylinder mode. I find that if I am doing 75 at the bottom of a hill I can let my speed drop to 68mph or 70mph on an incline (by simply holding the gas constant). Once I get to the top of the hill it builds speed back up nicely and I just let it go with it on a downhill run.
Getting between 15-16 mpg with a combination of suburban (50%), highway (30%) and city (20%) driving. Getting better with warmer temperatures. Over 5500 miles in two months.
I dont know how people get such "good" mileage. I average 11-13. 13 being with some parkway driving. I know highway only I can get 19 or more using cruise control. But city, stop/go and remote start seem to kill the MPG and Im generally near 12. and no I don't WOT, I even try to drive to get better gas mileage, go the speed limit, etc.. o well its a hemi. It would just be nice to get near people who average 15 or so
Just a thought but, have you tried changing to a different brand of gas? Gasoline retailers are allowed to put a certain amount of ethanol into the gas, and this may vary between retailers. (An off-brand might even cheat and put more ethanol in.) That would hurt your gas mileage.
14 to 15 so far, mostly city driving. I've got about 2,400 miles on the odometer and will soon be taking an 1,200 mile road trip,mostly interstate.
I'll report on my results. It helps if you monitor the "fuel economy" thingy.
Yea Im also heading on a 500 mile trip tomorrow and then return 500 in a week or two, I'll be sure to fill up tomorrow before and reset the MPG for the highway. Hope to average 20 or better!
I average 11-13 mpg depending on how much highway driving I do. I do not know how people are averaging 15 and up? I try hard to drive and keep that Eco light on.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat - I'm averaging about 13mpg, and that's about 60% city...even when I take a highway road trip I'm averaging 17mpg...I do use remote start quite a bit right now in the cold, but I have been pretty good about avoiding lead foot.
I also use name brand gas, 87 octane, but same as Jorde, it's 10% ethanol.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat - I'm averaging about 13mpg, and that's about 60% city...even when I take a highway road trip I'm averaging 17mpg...I do use remote start quite a bit right now in the cold, but I have been pretty good about avoiding lead foot.
I also use name brand gas, 87 octane, but same as Jorde, it's 10% ethanol.
Mostly highway driving I'm averaging 16.5-17, using ACC when I can. I was hoping to at least get to the EPA sticker mpg--first car in awhile where there was this much of difference between the EPA sticker and what I'm actually getting--usually I get slightly better than the EPA.
13.5 - 14.0 city if taking it easy. tons of stop and go and it's at the low end. highway is high teens, maybe 20 if flat and can be smart with above techniques mentioned by litespeedz. this is at altitude with 87-89 fuel (no E85).
good indicator how tough it is to move a 5k rig, reset your EVIC MPG screen and give 'er some pedal or do basic stop and go. this kind of driving is definitely single digit MPG.
I dont know why people even still mention 10% ethanol. Its been that way for like a decade atleast here in the Chicago area. I assume that to be normal these days. As far as how much that effects the cars performance, well IMO cant be that much because every car I have owned gets better than listed fuel economy. My current Lexus ES300's window sticker says 19/25 for fuel economy and I get 23/30. My C6 Z06 Corvette's sticker says 18/25 and I get 20/29. All im saying is that the numbers I get are very good so it seems that the 10% ethanol cant be hurting thattttt much. I dont have a WK2 Hemi yet so I cant comment on those yet, but considering how my other cars do compared to the window sticker and the type of driving I do I would also assume better than the listed 13/19.
I can speak to the difference with 10% ethanol on my XJ. Moved from Boston to Raleigh, NC. Similar daily drive, and similar weather back in the fall and I saw my XJ go from about 13 to 15-16. If I was still up north burning 10% ethanol, I'd be a little more worried about the gas mileage on the Hemi that's coming in my WK2.
Just puttering around the suburbs with a lot of stop&go the worst I have seen is 10mpg which included extensive winter blizzard driving in 4Low the night of the blizzard helping family and friends. In normal winter city/suburban driving I've seen 13mpg on one tank and then 16mpg on the next. On the highway, it is extraordinary for a 5000lb 4x4: 23mpg @ 60-65mph flat/gentle hills. Generally I can plan a trip with stops based on consistently getting 20mpg unless I get aggressive passing trucks or "obliviots" on the phone.
Well im not going to argue that ethanol is crap, or that your guys hard facts and numbers arent true, but man...if ethanol really makes that big of a difference I guess my 505hp Z06 can get mid 30's on ethanol free gas ;-)
I took this pic after filling up and driving 65miles at around 60mph. Come on ethanol cant be hurtin thatttt bad. The window sticker for this car says 25mpg hwy. Im not gonna worry too much about ethanol
You wanna V8? You pay for it and live with it otherwise get something with an I4 if you're really concerned about gas pricing. You're looking at the wrong vehicle.
The MPG numbers you see on the Monroney stickers are not hard and fast but an "average". Read the fine print and you'll see a range in there. Those numbers don't account for the loss in MPG because of Ethanol use in gas. So you wind up consuming more "gas" to go the distance but feel better about burning less of a hole in the ozone layer. Wait until 15% or more is shoved down our thoats. Remember, some states charge more than .50 per $1 in tax on your gasoline.
Ethanol reduces fuel economy, there is no mystery, it simply requires more gas to do the same work! Less energy, period.
You guys putting ethanol in and claiming better gas mileage have a bad test that you are using to calculate or your numbers are messed up, it just is NOT possible. There is no question about it!
E85 will reduce your gasemileage by 26%-34%. This range is because different manufacturer will adjust the tune for the E85, depending on how they do this depends on the results.
E10 will typically reduce the mpg by around 2%
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This past winter in the crappy weather I was getting around 11.5mpg. Since the snow has melted and it has been a little warmer I have been seeing 13.5mpg with the winter blend fuel. This is all in town driving.
On the HWY I have got 19mpg doing 80mph with the cruise set going up and down slight hills. Again, this was winter grade fuel.
I only run 89 octane (since 3000 miles since I didn't know that it required this until then, oops).
Ethanol is a negative net energy source; it takes more energy to make ethanol than the energy you get from the ethanol. That is why ethanol is indeed idiotic as a direct substitute for oil as fuel. Not only that, but if we use ALL of our farmland for crops to use in producing ethanol instead of food, we come nowhere close to filling but a fraction of our energy needs and get to starve ourselves in the process.