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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

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I will read into dpf issues thanks. Based on fuel alone i would save $1000 a year over the hemi v8 which makes me consoder the diesel. Also like the low end torque for city and towing. The v8 would be great too its just the fuel cost in city.

I have no issues taking it on a hwy run once in a while to run the regen; however the comment about cold driving and short trips - what is the concern there? Is thete any difference in cabin heating in winter with the diesel?

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it simply takes longer for that diesel to come up to operating temps compared to it's gasser counterpart, and yes depending on how short of a trip and ambient temps your hvac system certainly may not reach comfortable levels.

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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

I have a loaded '14 Limited Diesel and it came with an electric heater built into the cabin air circulation system. I live in SoCal and the only time last winter that it was below freezing, about 29 deg, the heat strip came on along with the heated steering wheel and driver's seat at startup. I think that this is part of the reason for the larger 220 amp alternator on the diesel, in addition to running the glow plugs and engine intake air heater. I don't know how effective the heat strip is at very cold temps, but if it was that cold I would use the remote start.
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I got mine in Nov so I had it all winter. It was pretty darn cold this year - lots of ambient in single digits and windchill negative teens. I had no issue with warmup time - wouldn't know it from my gas trucks.


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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

Wow so some different experiences with the diesel in cold and city driving. Makes me think its at least a viable option with a few things to be aware of. I'm not in a hurry to but so will keep an eye on promos for hemi and diesel and test drive again.

Thanks all for your input. Anyone else have a diesel and do mostly short city driving? Or a hemi - hows the short trip mpg?

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If it's really a no-cost upgrade to the diesel for you over the v6, get the damned diesel! Just on the cost savings, you can take longer trips around town as needed for the diesel... Since the jeep is so fun to drive, shouldn't be an issue!
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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

Test drove both a hemi and diesel today and enjoyed them both but for different reasons.

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Clearly faster than the diesel but had to push quite a bit more pedal to notice. Hwy mpg was good but thirsty in the city.
Hwy passing power was really nice.
Hemi is also quieter and vibrates less at idle. Its noisier stepping into the pedal over the diesel.

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Really liked the punchiness of low rpm power. Even more so in sport mode. Seemed to throw me back in the seat much more than the hemi at low speeds. This i would like in the city and taking off while towing. Hwy passing was good but not as good as hemi. Seems quieter than the hemi once it's moving. Of course mpg on the evic was much better than the hemi.

Clearly pros to both but based on driving experience mostly city i like the diesel better. Would imagine it also feels better to tow with. Still need to do more research on owning one.
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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

So I've all but decided on the diesel. Hemi between running 89 and the suv excise tax in Canada make it less attractive let alone the actual city mpgs.

If i do mostly city driving and fairly short trips, how often will the regen come into play?

I've also read comments about spilling diesel and issues at stations. What is the deal there do diesel pumps not kick out when tank is full like gasoline pumps? Or is it messy?

Anything else to consider before i go this route? Definitely getting the extended warranty.

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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

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If i do mostly city driving and fairly short trips, how often will the regen come into play?
That is a “What is the meaning of life” type question.

I haven’t had any issues filling up with fuel, except the handles are greasy so generally grab some paper towel beforehand. Some people keep a specific glove in their car for it.
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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

I am debating between the Hemi and the diesel myself, we do a mix of 60% city and 40% highway. During the week it will be all short trips with my wife driving, weekend would be me and longer family road trips.

My concern on the diesel is the regen becoming an issue with all of the city driving, also a reason I worry about the Hemi because of MPG's. I could go the v6 route but then no QDII and we want to do some off roading.
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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

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That is a “What is the meaning of life” type question.

I haven’t had any issues filling up with fuel, except the handles are greasy so generally grab some paper towel beforehand. Some people keep a specific glove in their car for it.
Haha good to know. Is there any general guidelines on what factors cause a regen to occur?
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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

Also when doing any calc based on EPA sticker numbers - the diesel will usually meet or exceed EPA whereas the Hemi will normally not meet EPA. Remember EPA is done in a laboratory on a dynometer or not at all where the OEM can then apply an algorithm to find an EPA number. OEMs are given a range in those calculations and sometimes they overstate it in order to have higher EPA MPG sticker values. Ford / Hyundai /Honda have had these issues where they had to restate their MPG (Ford twice with the Cmax, Hyundai with their 40 mpg, Honda with their hybrids that frequently don't meet EPA). Check Fuelly and fueleconomy.gov for user results based on real world - throw out the outliers (high and low) and you'll get a good sense of what MPG the diesel and Hemi will actually get in the real world.
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Re: Hemi or diesel based on this criteria (Canada)....

Well it's been a few months and I haven't ordered a jeep yet. Now ready to buy but still debating over the hemi or diesel option on a 4x4 overland.

I'm continuing to read about problems with the diesel and it's def/dpf system....which makes me nervous to order especially with my short trip driving style. Parts availability appears to be a concern as well.

Haven't read of much complaints on the hemi other than the fuel economy.

Anyone else able to comment on their suggestion based on my criteria in the original post?

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