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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

I used to have the 2014 v6 Limited and traded it in after a year for the HEMI. It is day and night different for me. The V6 was a little hesitate when press the gas from a complete stop and the gear shifting from 1st to 3rd gears was annoying and the cluck sound.

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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

What's the build date of OP's V6, must be very early build if he had it 4 years, lots of transmission issues back then. Some were fixed with firmware but some were just broken too. Often valve body which seems like is not an easy fix to get right.

Test drive a newer V6 or V8.

I barely notice my V6 shifting.
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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

Love my V8's... The 5.7 hemi is a very driveable and is able to put down the power when needed. It is not much for MPGs though, but that is not why I bought mine. I liked my two 4.7s as well. One has the HO addition of what 30 hp, but the 5.7 is just a brute. Love to drive that one around. Wonder how that SRT V8 puts down the power, love to give one a go.
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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

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I am completely fed up with the driveability of the V6. I have had the vehicle for 4 years and put on 70k miles.
Never had a problem and I had an early MY 2014 (factory ordered at the beginning of March 2013). I have speculated before that I have a ZF transmission, not the Indiana cloned version, based on reports in the press and here. On the FCA website, it says that the 845RE transmission manufacturing began in Indiana in September 2012. I would not be surprised if it was the Chrysler 300s/Chargers who first got the indigenous built transmission, then the Grand Cherokee. If you read the forums, people start complaining around that late 2013-2014 time frame. On the Jeep forums, complaints start late 2013 early 2014. Who knows, maybe I just have more ZF parts inside than indigenous. Maybe I had a hard working, dedicated, passionate assembly robot and and even more tremendous crew for the manual bits. But over the past 4 years and 30,000 miles later, I have had some problems but never had transmission issues.

My best friend has a late MY 2014 model year - a June/July 2014 built V6 Overland which he got off the lot in October 2014 - and he has had several transmission issues including no 8th gear on the highway; TCU; and "shaky" stopping as he came to a stop.
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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

I highly suggest you get a sprint booster if you plan on keeping your v6. It makes a night and day difference and will make living with the v6 much much much more tolerable. Honestly feels like a different car.


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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

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Never had a problem and I had an early MY 2014 (factory ordered at the beginning of March 2013). I have speculated before that I have a ZF transmission, not the Indiana cloned version, based on reports in the press and here. On the FCA website, it says that the 845RE transmission manufacturing began in Indiana in September 2012. I would not be surprised if it was the Chrysler 300s/Chargers who first got the indigenous built transmission, then the Grand Cherokee. If you read the forums, people start complaining around that late 2013-2014 time frame. On the Jeep forums, complaints start late 2013 early 2014. Who knows, maybe I just have more ZF parts inside than indigenous. Maybe I had a hard working, dedicated, passionate assembly robot and and even more tremendous crew for the manual bits. But over the past 4 years and 30,000 miles later, I have had some problems but never had transmission issues.

My best friend has a late MY 2014 model year - a June/July 2014 built V6 Overland which he got off the lot in October 2014 - and he has had several transmission issues including no 8th gear on the highway; TCU; and "shaky" stopping as he came to a stop.
The build sheet will end your speculation. It will say "built" or "buy". The % of imported parts would also be different. Back then the ZF transmissions came from Germany.

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I highly suggest you get a sprint booster if you plan on keeping your v6. It makes a night and day difference and will make living with the v6 much much much more tolerable. Honestly feels like a different car.


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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

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The build sheet will end your speculation. It will say "built" or "buy". The % of imported parts would also be different. Back then the ZF transmissions came from Germany.

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Looking at the 2017 window stickers the % is the same for both V6 and V8, most likely means it has the same transmission build in the US. I am curious now if anyone with a 2017 V6 has similar shifting issues as in the older models.
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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

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Also with sport mode I can't use unless using paddle shifters because of that 2nd gear hang as well.


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Yea same here. Don't use sport mode unless I'm on the highway and anticipate that I will need a quick acceleration while I'm already at speed.

Around town I'll use paddle shifters if needed but in regular drive mode the V8 does well.
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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

Ive owned a 12 QT1 and a 13 QT2 V6 prior to my Hemi and I WILL say it IS night and day. The Hemi engine is smooth and effortless in city driving as well as hwy driving. I do both with a ton of long haul road trips to Canad and down south as well as offroading and IMO the V6 was good but just doesn't compare to the Hemi. Overall a much more enjoyable ride. *opens umbrella for inevitable shit storm...*
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Re: Hemi vs. V6 driveability

I have driven both and I own a '14 V8. I was a little disappointed in the power of the V6 but I felt like it was "good enough" for casual driving around town, considering other V6 midsize trucks and SUVs I've had in the past were much weaker.

I knew all along I would get the V8 for occasional off roading and pulling my boat. Plus I enjoy driving fast (even in a 5,000 lb SUV). I can understand someone wanting to go with the V6 for gas mileage reasons, but to expect that same V6 to deliver real word power is a bit of a stretch. The Pentastar is a solid, smooth power plant; but you have to know what you are buying and why you are buying it.
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Looking at the 2017 window stickers the % is the same for both V6 and V8, most likely means it has the same transmission build in the US. I am curious now if anyone with a 2017 V6 has similar shifting issues as in the older models.
I haven't driven any other WK2s other then my 17 TH and short test drives in MY16 Ecodiesel Overland and a 16 V6 Overland, I have no issue with how the transmission shifts.....in Eco Mode it can be a bit slow to downshift but thats the point, I run it in Non-Eco mode, and not sport mode.

I'm very pleased with everything. I've been on 3 road trips since I got it, I live in Salt Lake City Utah, and I've been to Great Basin NP Nevada, Moab Utah, and recently Queen Creek Arizona stopping in Sedona to run Broken Arrow on the way home.

I have no problems merging, passing, climbing grades, keeping up with traffic, etc. Loaded with 2 adults, hitchgate carrier, mini fridge, and various recovery gear. while returning an average of about 22 MPG all Hwy with speed limits varying from 65-80 MPH and long sections of hwy at 80 MPH.

I'm not going to claim that the Hemi isn't more powerful or quicker or anything like that, i'm sure its awesome.......but the V6 is awesome for my needs. If I towed at all I probably would want the Hemi or EcoDiesel, but I never tow anything.

Anyone trying to decide what is better needs to drive all of them and make a decision of what suits them and their needs best. Its hard to take info from driving a V6 and V8 with a 5 or 6 speed auto and compare it to an 8 speed as well as the MY16-17s have the updated Pentastars.....I had 2 JK Wranglers with the V6 and the 5 speed auto and my WK2 feels like a rocket compared to them and its a bit heavier....especially compared my 2 door.

Sorry I got long winded, just sharing my experiences and hopefully it will help someone.
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