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Old 06-24-2016, 08:42 AM
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Here come the shifter lawsuits

Saw this while perusing the news this morning. Not sure if it's been mentioned in another thread

Jeep owners sue Fiat Chrysler over defect suspected in 'Star Trek' actor's death - Jun. 23, 2016

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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

I really hate people sometimes.......
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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

This is such bullshit. People with the early 2014 models have been living with this for 3yrs now (I was included too). 1 somewhat celebrity dies and everyone gets sue happy. They got their recalls and need to wait their turn to get it done. The only people making out on these lawsuits are the lawyers not the individuals. The shifter isn't "defective", this was most likely user error. Stop being in a damn rush to get out of the car and pay attention to your shifter as you knew what you were getting into after you bought it. It's not a death trap just because of this, you've been perfectly fine until now and somehow now you think you need to be compensated?? Some people just need to be taken out back and beat. just my 2 cents.
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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

FCA is getting sued for the customer's mistake?
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Old 06-24-2016, 09:22 AM
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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

Sign me up to be a witness for Jeep, as a customer who does not think the design is bad. I put 40,000+ miles on my 2014, and I miss not having that shifter on my 2016.

Anyone else willing to be a witness to support Jeep?
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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

I agree, but you know what if Jeep is going to pay out money then I'm taking it.


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I agree, but you know what if Jeep is going to pay out money then I'm taking it.


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Here come the shifter lawsuits

I wonder why FCA went back to a traditional shifter in 16.


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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

I'm not fond of the shifter design. It makes things more difficult than they are with pretty much every other existing shifter - from that standpoint it's a bad design. It is not an unsafe or criminally bad design - it is reasonably simple to adjust and pay attention to.
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Re: Here come the shifter lawsuits

You can probably say every shifter has something that could be tweaked. And what that something is varies among people. Hard to assign liability to a manufacturer for something that is operator error. Should FCA always strive to make things "more safe (idiot proof)"? Sure, that's good business. Product liability law is a unique creature (it's not the more common negligence standard) but here what is the "defect" per se. The design? So if you knew you didn't like it from the get go, then why didn't you pay more attention later? Does it have a higher rate of accidents than other vehicles? If so, how much higher and where is the blame? Remember we are talking about WHO SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE AND PAY MONEY when talking about lawsuits, we're not talking whether or not you like the shifter design. What is being done now (software improvements, etc.) is helpful to society, but lawsuits here aren't adding any value except to the lawyers.
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I wonder why FCA went back to a traditional shifter in 16.


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Because the design may have looked good in theory & once the whole shifter confusion issue came about they went back to a more traditional shifter. Hence the recall- which again was already out there prior to Yelchin's death.


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