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Old 08-25-2011, 11:17 AM
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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

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i forgot to say that i bought a V6.
but i will have the select terrain, QL, the trail rated badge i can buy it. the tires i will upgrade them for 275/55/20 A/T tires this gives me more sidewall, although i wont be making any rock climbing just mud offroading.
so what i will need is the skid plates (Fuel Tank, Transfer Case, Front Suspension, Underbody), the Tow Hook.
Do i have the ELSD with the V6 or can i update this like a software update in the dealer?
finally do i also need the QDII? or again can i update this with a software update?
Also is it true about the additional protection for water folding?
I guess this what you want:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/55010_102.htm

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Old 08-25-2011, 11:32 AM
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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

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How do you explain the 70th Anniversary Edition with 20" wheels being trail rated?
Don't know anything about the 70th anniversary edition, but if it comes with the stock 20" all-season tires and gets a bling badge, then as some stated earlier, it's a joke.
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:47 AM
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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

I remember reading that another requirement to earn the bling badge was that the Jeep had to complete the Rubicon Trail:

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/2011...the-rubicon/#2

http://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/gran...r-rubicon.html

http://www.road-reality.com/2010/02/...s-the-rubicon/


Found It - to be Trail Rate, must complete the Rubicon Trail and must pass 5 categories:

http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep_capabilities/trail_rated/

So, if the V6 with 20" tires or the 70th anniversary with 20" tires can complete the Rubicon Trail, then it earns the trail rated badge, according to Jeep. The 18" tires, skid plates, etc are not required, only completing the Rubicon trail and passing in the 5 categories.


Check out these 2011's on one of the Moab Trails, noting that they have the badge, 18" tires, and Quadra Lift. 20" tires would not have worked, with or with out the Quadra Lift = rub, rub, flat:

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Old 08-25-2011, 12:03 PM
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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

So with that said, EVERY Jeep Grand Cherokee with a V8 should be trail rated regardless of tires, skid plates, tow hooks, etc. But that isn't the case...marketing or a watering down of the badge itself.

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I remember reading that another requirement to earn the bling badge was that the Jeep had to complete the Rubicon Trail:

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/2011...the-rubicon/#2

http://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/gran...r-rubicon.html

http://www.road-reality.com/2010/02/...s-the-rubicon/


Found It - to be Trail Rate, must complete the Rubicon Trail and must pass 5 categories:

http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep_capabilities/trail_rated/

So, if the V6 with 20" tires or the 70th anniversary with 20" tires can complete the Rubicon Trail, then it earns the trail rated badge, according to Jeep. The 18" tires, skid plates, etc are not required, only completing the Rubicon trail and passing in the 5 categories.


Check out these 2011's on one of the Moab Trails, noting that they have the badge, 18" tires, and Quadra Lift. 20" tires would not have worked, with or with out the Quadra Lift = rub, rub, flat:

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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

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So with that said, EVERY Jeep Grand Cherokee with a V8 should be trail rated regardless of tires, skid plates, tow hooks, etc. But that isn't the case...marketing or a watering down of the badge itself.
Huh

"EVERY Jeep Grand Cherokee with a V8 should be trail rated regardless of tires, skid plates, tow hooks, etc." That statement does not not make sense: The vehicle must "complete" the Rubicon Trail (even if its pulled = tow hooks, which would require the correct tires for both traction & articulation (remember the categories) and it aint gona make it without skid plates. I guess I'm used to some of these requirements from Jeep Jamboree's where tow hooks are required.

I'm just answering what Jeep publishes as requirements for the Trail Rated badge, as asked by the original OP. IF you feel that Jeep is watering down the requirements and slapping the badge on unqualified vehicles, and I don't know if they are, that's a fight to take up with Jeep, not me. I'm only stating facts as I read them.
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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

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So, if the V6 with 20" tires or the 70th anniversary with 20" tires can complete the Rubicon Trail, then it earns the trail rated badge, according to Jeep. The 18" tires, skid plates, etc are not required, only completing the Rubicon trail and passing in the 5 categories.
Not arguing with you at all simply stating that based on THIS statement above (replace V8 with V6), EVERY Jeep Grand Cherokee that has a V8 and is a 4X4 SHOULD be TRAIL RATED. The V6 IS NOT trail rated on the 70th Anniversary Editions. ONLY the V8 4X4 70th Anniversary Editions are Trail Rated although they shouldn't be. Look at the window sticker of one. The Trail Rated badge is listed as part of the V8 on the 4X4 Anniversary Editions. They have no NO skid plates, NO tow hooks and have 20" Wheels.
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ONLY the Off Road Adventure Group II package with the V8 will give you ELSD and QDII.
Thats not entirely true, the 2012 24R (V8/6speed) Summit Option package will also give you ELSD & QDII. This might be different for the 2011's
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Re: How to Transform a Regular Overland into a Trail Rated Overland

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Thats not entirely true, the 2012 24R (V8/6speed) Summit Option package will also give you ELSD & QDII. This might be different for the 2011's
Yes the 2012 Summit comes standard with it but I was referring to getting it on a NON-Summit Overland.
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