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Re: I think I might go pick up a 2014 Overland tonight...

Congrats on the early get....it looks great in white, so glad that's what I ordered. Thanks for the pics.
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Didn't play with anything when cruising on the interstate. I used the paddle shift from a dead stop and was pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, what was the flappy paddle gear box like? Was it really laggy like a lot of the manumatics or was it quick and responsive, as in nearly instantaneous gear changes?
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:01 PM
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Yeah, what was the flappy paddle gear box like? Was it really laggy like a lot of the manumatics or was it quick and responsive, as in nearly instantaneous gear changes?

Unless they're advertising 10th of a second shifts with the paddle shifters, they're going to be as pointless as any other paddle or tiptronic setup.

Paddle shifters aren't shifters in applications like this. They only let you lock out higher gears from the fully automatic transmissions.

You'll never be able to shift faster with the paddles than letting the automatic transmission do its job...because they're not shifters.

I had them for 6 years in my IS350 and used them maybe 3 times during the first 3 days of ownership and never again.
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Re: I think I might go pick up a 2014 Overland tonight...

I have 14 Summit on order with VIN# and Status D. When I call Jeep they tell me production will not start until March?
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Unless they're advertising 10th of a second shifts with the paddle shifters, they're going to be as pointless as any other paddle or tiptronic setup.

Paddle shifters aren't shifters in applications like this. They only let you lock out higher gears from the fully automatic transmissions.

You'll never be able to shift faster with the paddles than letting the automatic transmission do its job...because they're not shifters.

I had them for 6 years in my IS350 and used them maybe 3 times during the first 3 days of ownership and never again.
The "paddle shifters" are most likely the same thing as the ERS (Extended Range Selector) that I have in my 2012 Ram. It's nowhere near performance oriented but is very useful for limiting top gear when towing. It looks like they did away with the Tow/Haul button as well (if the previous years even had them). This will make the paddle shifters become a mandatory tool when towing.

My 08 SRT8 Charger also has the manual shift setup (forget what they call it) that's slightly more performance oriented, but not much. It still doesn't force an upshift like a true performance paddle shifter does on the high end super cars.
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Is the tow standard tow package on the Overland the same as the added option on say a Limited? Or just a hitch receiver?
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Is the tow standard tow package on the Overland the same as the added option on say a Limited? Or just a hitch receiver?
Towing is the same... No difference
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Cool. That's like a free option!
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The "paddle shifters" are most likely the same thing as the ERS (Extended Range Selector) that I have in my 2012 Ram. It's nowhere near performance oriented but is very useful for limiting top gear when towing. It looks like they did away with the Tow/Haul button as well (if the previous years even had them). This will make the paddle shifters become a mandatory tool when towing.

My 08 SRT8 Charger also has the manual shift setup (forget what they call it) that's slightly more performance oriented, but not much. It still doesn't force an upshift like a true performance paddle shifter does on the high end super cars.
While I agree that these are not true shifters nor performance oriented, the paddle shifters are hugely useful for downshifting and slowing during descents. It is really nice to keep two hands on the wheel while negotiating mountain passes or snow covered downhills.

Query whether Lincoln's recently published no shifter design will take hold.
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While I agree that these are not true shifters nor performance oriented, the paddle shifters are hugely useful for downshifting and slowing during descents. It is really nice to keep two hands on the wheel while negotiating mountain passes or snow covered downhills.

Query whether Lincoln's recently published no shifter design will take hold.
I agree. I use the ERS all the time for early downshifting. It's simple +/- buttons on the column shifter.
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No, it is not a CRD.
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