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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

Jeep SRT is a pretty unique vehicle. Classy looking, fast, great handling and compared to other equal performance SUV's a good value.

If you want to look at used, perhaps a used SRT is the best way to go.

Both the Jeeps you are looking at are very capable, and have gotten rave reviews.

2014 Models get some pretty significant upgrades, and since you are getting it early in the model run, your depreciation will be much lower than those buying in a couple years when the '15's come out.

If you are a cruiser, the Summit is going to be hard to beat. If you like to drive a vehicle with real courage and impact, and since you are willing to sacrifice some fuel economy, the SRT could be a life altering choice.

One magazine just called Jeep Grand Cherokee as America's land rover. Good quote.
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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

The guys interested in the SRT aren't really the same flashy euro trash that are looking at spending $70-100k on a Porsche or BMW suv. And the euro trash usually don't last long if they end up in an SRT. Local Porsche dealer took in a couple of SRTs with low miles because the owners didn't get enough attention in their American suv.
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For the record I don't think the srt has competition at its price point. And I'm in canada. A used bmw x5m isn't serious competition IMO. Yes it's faster but turbo charged and more trouble (more expensive to fix too!)

The 8-speed tranny in the 2014 sealed the deal for me. The new evic nav and front end were bonus.

But to each their own; this really hits home because I've gotten a lot of flak for trying to buy a really expensive jeep over an equivalent used euro vehicle. I use the term equivalent loosely.
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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

I get a summit lots of good options does not cost 65k for it.
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The guys interested in the SRT aren't really the same flashy euro trash that are looking at spending $70-100k on a Porsche or BMW suv. And the euro trash usually don't last long if they end up in an SRT. Local Porsche dealer took in a couple of SRTs with low miles because the owners didn't get enough attention in their American suv.
Euro trash? I don't think thats really necessary.
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But to each their own; this really hits home because I've gotten a lot of flak for trying to buy a really expensive jeep over an equivalent used euro vehicle. I use the term equivalent loosely.
IMO, you should buy the vehicle you want, regardless of what people you know (or people on the internet) say. If the SRT8 makes you happy with its overt aggressive styling, that's a personal decision, and you should buy what makes you happy.

I don't think that I could justify spending that much money for a Jeep just as a principle. It's sort of like, I wouldn't be able to justify spending $50 for a dinner at McDonald's, even if it made something really similar to Cheesecake Factory, and was quite nearly as nice but marginally less delicious, while being 15% less expensive.

That said, I do like the SRT8 a lot, just not its price tag. Perhaps some of it is just the realities of inflation (for whatever reason or other - no need to get political), but I suspect more than a little is due to just wanting to make more money on them.

IMO, the best values in the WK2 are the Overland/Summit models, there's simply no other vehicles that can touch them in overall greatness, and price.
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IMO, you should buy the vehicle you want, regardless of what people you know (or people on the internet) say. If the SRT8 makes you happy with its overt aggressive styling, that's a personal decision, and you should buy what makes you happy.
Well said. I agree. I've admired the srt since the early "peanut light" version when it was ~ 41k base in canada. Since then I feel that they have really stepped up their game. Of course an X5 is nicer in some ways (the interior has less "cheap" plastic ie around the shifter). But a new X5 is around 40k more. In the last 7 years the cherokee srt in my mind went from a cheap "fast" SUV to a car I would cross shop to an x5m. I fact although there are still (very few) plasticy pieces in the srt - I think the interior makes that on the x5 feel dated. This will likely change with the 2014 x5. Also I really like the aggressiveness of the srt vs the x5 and if they were the same price I would have a tough time deciding between. This really says something because a few years ago (even last year) it was no contest (x5 wins). Well done jeep! As for the price - here in canada we typically pay msrp and even then are lucky if it gets built (~80 for the whole country last year says milous).
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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

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Absolutely. Life is too short not to drive what you want to drive.

As for the X5...I dunno, the X5 just has never done anything for me. I have a coworker who has one (not an X5M, but an ordinary ol X5) and I've ridden in it many times, as well as driven it and others when I was shopping. It just doesn't appeal to me...
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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

X5 35i is very boring and about 75K with some upgrades...not even all of them.

A fully loaded summit is 50K with everything you could ever want and looks better IMO.

The X5 may be a bit faster and more performance orientated at high altitude since it has forced induction, but not worth the 25K more.

A base X5 is around 50, and it can't even hold a candle to the Jeep.

If you ever need to go off the tarmac, the X5 is as good as a toyota prius.


People who look at Jeeps aren't really X5 people. They look at Range Rovers, Land Rovers and other On road/Off road beasts.

Its nice to know that if something comes up that you need to get offroad, your jeep has the advantage all the time.
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I crossed over a grassy median once! I agree with you though.
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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

I cross shopped them all- Range Rover, Lexus, BMW, etc.

The ruggedness was what sold me on the Jeep, it felt tough like a truck, the other luxury makes felt more like wagons on stilts like my previous crossover. Truthfully I wanted something body on frame, but the only option in that size range was the GX460, which didn't have a panoramic moonroof and had a weird side opening rear door. I felt like it was less roomy as well and didn't need its 3rd row seat, and there was no local Lexus dealership.

The RX350 was great, but drove like a car, and was a little, well, girly. Plus there's about a billion of them where I'm from, so it was a SUPER common vehicle. Also my uncle had just bought one a few weeks prior, and had gotten a better deal than I was getting, and the dealership I was about to buy from didn't treat me as well as I felt they should have (despite the fact that we had bought a vehicle from them previously).

I don't think people buying Overlands and Summits are all that different from people buying from the luxury makes. On the WK1, sure, but the WK2 has opened up a whole new clientele for Jeep. I think a lot of people who pick the Jeep do so because it's a lot more tough and rugged than the others, and because of the value it represents.
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Re: I was pretty much set on a '14 summit...but now the SRT wont get out of my head

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I cross shopped them all- Range Rover, Lexus, BMW, etc.

The RX350 was great, but drove like a car, and was a little, well, girly.

I think a lot of people who pick the Jeep do so because it's a lot more tough and rugged than the others, and because of the value it represents.
THIS!!! My sentiment exactly.
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