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I traded my 2014 Limited in for a 2014 Overland...so far so good...fingers crossed! The "Pros" for the Overland (over the Limited) is the standard 8.4AN radio, ventilated full leatherseats, puddle lights, HIDs, chrome tow hooks, power retractable outside mirrors and power tilt/telescopic steering wheel, Pano roof, and the cool QL suspension. The only bitch I have so far about the white stitching is the reflection I get on the front windshield in the daytime...it's right at eye level for me. So glad I didn't pay the extra $3,000 for the thirstier V8, which also "requires" higher octane/more expensive fuel. The V6 has plenty of power for my needs, especially since I will rarely tow with it.
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:52 PM
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So glad I didn't pay the extra $3,000 for the thirstier V8, which also "requires" higher octane/more expensive fuel. The V6 has plenty of power for my needs, especially since I will rarely tow with it.
Just a heads up. This is directly from the owners manual. It doesn't require it, but I guess it prefers it. At least if you want to run it in beast mode. I don't tow anything and in my opinion the V6 isn't bad, but it's a totally different world compared to the hemi and I am definitely glad I spent the extra money for it. Yeah, I will spend a lot more on gas since I have the larger engine, but it's something I am completely ok with for all the positive things I get from it.

"We recommend you use of 89 octane or higher for optimum performance but 87 octane is acceptable"
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:06 PM
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This past winter i loaded a 1000 lbs. in the rear cargo area and the QL adjusted too the extra lb. It rode like it was empty, i even tried to bottom it out on the same dip my 04 would bottom out at. It didn't and i was impressed !!!!
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Re: I'm open minded.

Quad "A",

It is great having a place where you can receive all the different and good opinions. This has been the BEST forum I have ever been involved in. But it all comes down to what you want and can afford. I chose the Overland for "Looks" and "Capability". As described earlier there are a lot of differences in the two. For me, the Overland exterior looks are WAY superior to the Limited, my opinion only. I once bought a vehicle I only somewhat liked, and it showed in the way I took care of it and treated it, my personal downfall. I plan on doing "some" offroading, not serious stuff, but where the capabilities may come in handy. I was lucky in that I got employee purchase so I got a great deal and did not have to deal with the hassle of negotiations with salesman.

Take a test drive, I love how my Overland rides.

Bottom Line: Get what YOU like and can actually afford.

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Old 04-08-2014, 08:44 PM
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The "Pros" for the Overland (over the Limited) is the standard 8.4AN radio, ventilated full leather seats, puddle lights, HIDs, chrome tow hooks, power retractable outside mirrors and power tilt/telescopic steering wheel, Pano roof, auto high-beams, and the cool QL suspension.
And of those, all but the puddle lights, tow hooks and power mirrors can be added to the Limited.

Really it comes down to three items, plus nicer interior and color options along with body colored wheel arches instead of black. I REALLY wanted the Vesuvio blue interior, but couldn't justify the (rather significant IMHO) extra money just for a pretty interior and instead went with a diesel limited. If I had money to spare I certainly would have, so I can understand why many go with the Overland.

The Limited does not ride or handle any differently than the Overland when configured equally with the QL suspension. Some of you sound like salesmen!
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Re: I'm open minded.

IMHO the Overland is worth it over the Limited for the interior alone.

I can't speak to QL, but I can speak for the stitching. My Lexus has contrast stitching on the wheel and seats and dash, its a tan color matching the flaxen leather. I will say that the stitching on the steering wheel and the shift knob does get dingy with age, but some leather cleaner and a soft toothbrush or detailing brush brings it right back. My Lexus is 18 months and 23k miles in now and I just felt they got dingy enough to try this and it worked great.

I will say that the Overlands I've driven...the QL makes the GC from a great riding vehicle into an incredibly riding vehicle. If I were to replace mine with a 2014/2015...it'd be an Overland.
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I think the overland with the painted trim looks much nicer than the lower trims, i definitely think that sets the overland apart in appearance. Just my humble opinion.

If you plan on doing any off-roading or beach driving the quadralift isn't a must but it's an option that will improve your experience and in some circumstances can protect your vehicle undercarriage better vs jeeps that aren't q-lift equipped.

The Hemi has more torque, is a better engine if towing and is faster than the v6. The downside is the mileage. To each his own on that.

I don't think there can be any argument that quadralift isn't an improvement over the non quadra lift equipped jeeps. I can't believe there is a pushback on that. I've owned both, the ride difference isn't substantially better but the off road experience is, the added clearance when driving on sand or in the snow is NIGHT AND DAY. There is no valid argument against that fact. If you can get it you should.

As far as air suspension reliability goes I wouldn't be too concerned. The possibility of something bad happening shouldn't deter you. Anything can go wrong any time with anything you buy or use in life. I sound like a motivational speaker there huh?

Just my .10 cents....
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And of those, all but the puddle lights, tow hooks and power mirrors can be added to the Limited.
I'm well aware of that, heck I used to own a 2014 Limited GC.

Hence why I used the term "standard"...as in standard equipment for the Overland.
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The other thing to think about when looking at a loaded Limited and a basic Overland is resale. True, they can be equipped pretty much the same. But, at resale time a lot of "option packages" loose almost all their value when compared to less equipped vehicles within their trim level. For instance...at resale time a "loaded" Limited is going to regress in value closer to a more basic Limited, where an Overland is going to maintain more of that value because "its an Overland".

The odd thing is when leasing the residuals favor the Limited, so a loaded Limited is a lot cheaper than a basic Overland. But, when buying I'd choose the Overland.
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The other thing to think about when looking at a loaded Limited and a basic Overland is resale. True, they can be equipped pretty much the same. But, at resale time a lot of "option packages" loose almost all their value when compared to less equipped vehicles within their trim level. For instance...at resale time a "loaded" Limited is going to regress in value closer to a more basic Limited, where an Overland is going to maintain more of that value because "its an Overland".
Good point, but a bit of an oversimplification, especially when fixed budgets are thrown in. The two trim lines have some overlap. Which is better, a loaded Limited with a DIESEL engine, or an Overland with a V6 gasser? Prices are similar. The resale of the Overland will be higher because it's an Overland, the resale of the diesel will be higher because it's a diesel. Now what?

My point is, it's an easy decision if money is no object (no budget), but it becomes harder when you have a fixed dollar budget and are trying to decide how best to distribute those fixed funds. The only way to make that choice is to understand the differences, test drive, and make some personal choices based on the collected information.
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Good point, but a bit of an oversimplification, especially when fixed budgets are thrown in. The two trim lines have some overlap. Which is better, a loaded Limited with a DIESEL engine, or an Overland with a V6 gasser? Prices are similar. The resale of the Overland will be higher because it's an Overland, the resale of the diesel will be higher because it's a diesel. Now what?
Thats an entirely different situation and isn't what we're talking about, we're talking about the OP's decision not yours...and he's not talking about a Diesel. I'm talking about two Jeeps with the same power train, one a loaded Limited and one a basic Overland. In reality a loaded Limited, outfitted with QL and 20s and ATP is $48,775. An Overland with ATP is $49,185. A difference in price of $410.

The % spread will be significantly more down the line at resale time.

We don't yet know what the resale value of the diesel will be because its too new. My guess is that the price of the diesel option will depreciate poorly as well...but time will tell.
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The other thing to think about when looking at a loaded Limited and a basic Overland is resale. True, they can be equipped pretty much the same. But, at resale time a lot of "option packages" loose almost all their value when compared to less equipped vehicles within their trim level. For instance...at resale time a "loaded" Limited is going to regress in value closer to a more basic Limited, where an Overland is going to maintain more of that value because "its an Overland".
I see this thrown out many times on this forum, and while it makes intuitive sense, it isn't borne out in the real-world used car market. I know this because I have been heavily researching prices as I gear up to sell my 2012 Limited.

What I see is that the big resale-value factors are 4x4, engine, and navigation as a distant third. None of the other options really seem to impact price. Basically I see 4x4 V8 Laredos selling for the same price as 4x4 V8 Limiteds. By "same price" I mean within 1-2%, since no two used cars are exactly identical in equipment, number of miles, or condition.

Additionally, re: a bump in value due to one car being a Limited and another (similarly-equipped) being an Overland, it only seems to appear if the car is being sold by a dealer (for much more than private party).
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