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I have had several vehicles with zero issues.
same here...and I've had many....

09' Honda civic had since birth 55k miles...never seen the inside of the service dept....
12' suburu outback since birth 27k miles never so far....
14'jgc 2k miles since birth (july) not yet.....but I don't have confidence it's going to remain that way.

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I put 28,000 miles on my Golf R. It never seen a dealership after I took delivery.

I had 52,000 miles on my R32 and it never seen the dealership

128,000 miles on my duramax never a single issue

wife's first gti 21,000 miles no issues

Wife's current GTI 24,000 miles not a single issue.

So you can chose to not believe me... don't care.

The 2014s WK2 were rushed out to production and have a multitude of issues.
None of what you stated above proves that any of the above vehicles didn't have any problems. All it proves is that what ever issues they had didn't bother you enough to take them in and have them repaired. I stand by my original premies: Anything man made will not be perfect and have issues. The only thing is will you notice those issues and will they bother you enough to have something done about them.

eg: The issue with the brake noise on my new Cherokee would probably not have bothered most people. It only occurred in reverse and at a certain speed. The dealership mechanics could not reproduce the noise. I had to go in and demonstrate the noise for them in order for them to find the cause. So did my Cherokee have an issue if I was the only one who could reproduce it?

Bottom line. If anybody has a perfect vehicle it would be one of one and worth millions of dollars.

****I don't know anything about most of those vehicles you listed. I don't do foreign vehicles and am a strong union made supporter. I know Chrysler is considered foreign owned now but their headquarters is still down the road from me. Until that moves I will still consider Chrysler an American Company.
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I have had several vehicles with zero issues.
Same here. No issues with several vehicles.
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I guess what Macfan just said is that there are noises that only he can hear.


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None of what you stated above proves that any of the above vehicles didn't have any problems. All it proves is that what ever issues they had didn't bother you enough to take them in and have them repaired. I stand by my original premies: Anything man made will not be perfect and have issues. The only thing is will you notice those issues and will they bother you enough to have something done about them.

eg: The issue with the brake noise on my new Cherokee would probably not have bothered most people. It only occurred in reverse and at a certain speed. The dealership mechanics could not reproduce the noise. I had to go in and demonstrate the noise for them in order for them to find the cause. So did my Cherokee have an issue if I was the only one who could reproduce it?

Bottom line. If anybody has a perfect vehicle it would be one of one and worth millions of dollars.

****I don't know anything about most of those vehicles you listed. I don't do foreign vehicles and am a strong union made supporter. I know Chrysler is considered foreign owned now but their headquarters is still down the road from me. Until that moves I will still consider Chrysler an American Company.
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Just because you didn't find any does not mean they weren't there. But I am bored with this discussion. If you think your foreign vehicles are better made then go buy another. Chrysler/Jeep won't miss you. They are having their best sales year in a long time. I guess there must be a lot of stupid people out there buying Jeeps. Count me as one of them. I love my new Cherokee but it does have a few problems. The difference between you and me though is I bought my Jeep expecting them. Chrysler has taken care of every one of them. They could have easily repaired my brake problem but said for my inconvenience they would replace both pads and rotors with new.
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Just because you didn't find any does not mean they weren't there. But I am bored with this discussion. If you think your foreign vehicles are better made then go buy another. Chrysler/Jeep won't miss you. They are having their best sales year in a long time. I guess there must be a lot of stupid people out there buying Jeeps. Count me as one of them. I love my new Cherokee but it does have a few problems. The difference between you and me though is I bought my Jeep expecting them. Chrysler has taken care of every one of them. They could have easily repaired my brake problem but said for my inconvenience they would replace both pads and rotors with new.
Lmao... you have no clue dude. Continue handing your money to a company that makes subpar products.
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Re: Issue free

I'll throw this one out there. Both generations of R32 sold in North America had several recalls.

I'd consider recalls "issues" even if the owners chose not to answer the recall notice.

But the R32 was a very good car despite the recalls.
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Lmao... you have no clue dude. Continue handing your money to a company that makes subpar products.
Excuse me? But why are you here if you don't think the Jeep is the best product of its kind out there? Please don't tell me you are on a mission to save us from ourselves. They are only subpar products in your mind certainly not mine. I have been in several of the Chrysler plants and know several Chrysler employees at all levels, trust me they do not build sub par products. Foreign vehicles in my mind are sub par products and you will never find one in my garage or driveway. My last "sub par" product according to your definition was a 15 year old Chevrolet Monte Carlo I bought new that I sold to buy my Jeep. It was so sub par it is still on the road today.
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Excuse me? But why are you here if you don't think the Jeep is the best product of its kind out there? Please don't tell me you are on a mission to save us from ourselves. They are only subpar products in your mind certainly not mine. I have been in several of the Chrysler plants and know several Chrysler employees at all levels, trust me they do not build sub par products. Foreign vehicles in my mind are sub par products and you will never find one in my garage or driveway. My last "sub par" product according to your definition was a 15 year old Chevrolet Monte Carlo I bought new that I sold to buy my Jeep. It was so sub par it is still on the road today.
Oh the irony in this post.
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