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Old 08-22-2015, 11:22 AM
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Re: Its the dipstick! On the hemi

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Well, the info states it applies to 2014 and 2015s but when I had my 2013s oil changed right after I bought it used in January, 2015, 7 quarts only came up to the "not enough oil" so the mechanic added a little and kept rechecking the oil level. It took between 1/4 & 1/2 quarts to bring it up to "full"mark. Btw, it never smoked afterwards

I just checked my dipstick and it is marked with the "old" number. Should I order the new dipstick even though it's a 2013?

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Id say that as long as your number is 53034186 then you are free to use the latest revision. I imagine they have stopped making ACs in favor of ADs so if you ever needed a dip stick you would be forced to an AD anyway. You could double check with your dealer though.

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Old 08-22-2015, 11:23 AM
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I think they would just give it to you under warranty but that would be a trip to the dealer for them to say ok then they would order it because they don't have it(checked this morning) and a second trip to go get it. For me id rather just pay the $18 (including shipping) to order it and have it show up on my porch. I have no plans to return to the dealer for anything so just easier for me this way. otherwise just mentioning next time you are at dealer for something else is probably easiest.
I agree, just paying the relatively small amount would be much better than multiple trips to the dealership and whatever other BS they are gonna want to do over a dipstick.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:07 PM
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Id say that as long as your number is 53034186 then you are free to use the latest revision. I imagine they have stopped making ACs in favor of ADs so if you ever needed a dip stick you would be forced to an AD anyway. You could double check with your dealer though.
Anecdotal story...

My 93 GC had the up country suspension package with the high pressure gas shocks. Surprisingly enough, it didn't have the defective shocks that the UCS package was noted for in those earlier years.

After about 80K miles I decided to replace the shocks but I wasn't going to pay the BS high price the dealer wanted for the OEM replacements. I settled for Rancho RS5000 shocks. Put them on and the vehicle rode like crap and banged over every crack in the road. So I put the old shocks back on and had the dealer order the OEM's. This was a few years after they corrected the UCS OEM shock problem.

Put the replacement OEM's on and they rode like crap and banged as well. I had the boxes they came in so I started looking at the dates and part numbers on the label. I found out that the dealer received the old, defective shocks... which had a production date even older than the build date of my vehicle.

Those shocks shouldn't even have been in the parts distribution center's inventory. Yet a few years later they still were. So while thaey may have stopped producing the AC dipstick it doesn't mean that they still aren't in parts inventory. LOL... I wouldn't trust that they'll get the correct dipstick ordered without looking over their shoulder and verifying part numbers.

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Old 08-22-2015, 12:19 PM
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So the Tsb doesn't mention MY 2012 so I wonder if the dipstick is correct or not for my MY 2012 having AC part number.

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Old 08-22-2015, 12:21 PM
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Anecdotal story...

My 93 GC had the up country suspension package with the high pressure gas shocks. Surprisingly enough, it didn't have the defective shocks that the UCS package was noted for in those earlier years.

After about 80K miles I decided to replace the shocks but I wasn't going to pay the BS high price the dealer wanted for the OEM replacements. I settled for Rancho RS5000 shocks. Put them on and the vehicle rode like crap and banged over every crack in the road. So I put the old shocks back on and had the dealer order the OEM's. This was a few years after they corrected the UCS OEM shock problem.

Put the replacement OEM's on and they rode like crap and banged as well. I had the boxes they came in so I started looking at the dates and part numbers on the label. I found out that the dealer received the old, defective shocks... which had a production date even older than the build date of my vehicle.

Those shocks shouldn't even have been in the parts distribution center's inventory. Yet a few years later they still were. So while thaey may have stopped producing the AC dipstick it doesn't mean that they still aren't in parts inventory. LOL... I wouldn't trust that they'll get the correct dipstick ordered without looking over their shoulder and verifying part numbers.

I think you are right and i wont be surprised if an AC shows up on my porch lol. It will go right back though. I just think its insane it took them how many years to figure this out. Dipsticks are not precise but being off a whole quart should have been figured out and corrected long ago.
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Re: Its the dipstick! On the hemi

I have the incorrect AC dipstick so I read this thinking, "Who puts in more than 7 qts, regardless of dipstick indication, when the capacity is a known 7qts?" I mean, I ignore the dipstick at oil change since they are only a guide anyway, I just put in 7 qts and I'm done with it. But now I see how we (I) fall victim to this. Since the Hemi munches 1/2-1 full qt +/- between oil changes depending on driving habits, oil type and change interval it is when I go to add oil at 3-5k, AND RELY ON THE DIPSTICK, that I am overfilling...putting in 1 qt ish when 1/2 qt or so is proper....

Now I know where my blue smoke is coming from.
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I have the incorrect AC dipstick so I read this thinking, "Who puts in more than 7 qts, regardless of dipstick indication, when the capacity is a known 7qts?" I mean, I ignore the dipstick at oil change since they are only a guide anyway, I just put in 7 qts and I'm done with it. But now I see how we (I) fall victim to this. Since the Hemi munches 1/2-1 full qt +/- between oil changes depending on driving habits, oil type and change interval it is when I go to add oil at 3-5k, AND RELY ON THE DIPSTICK, that I am overfilling...putting in 1 qt ish when 1/2 qt or so is proper....

Now I know where my blue smoke is coming from.
Or if you happen to be on a trip or something and you check oil and shows 1 quart low then you add a quart so now you are a quart over filled and maybe spewing blue smoke wonder whats going on. Wasnt there all this stuff with redesigned oil pans and windage trays and stuff because of blue smooke? Bet it was the dip stick the whole time lol
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Or if you happen to be on a trip or something and you check oil and shows 1 quart low then you add a quart so now you are a quart over filled and maybe spewing blue smoke wonder whats going on. Wasnt there all this stuff with redesigned oil pans and windage trays and stuff because of blue smooke? Bet it was the dip stick the whole time lol
Ya, there's a specific blue smoke TSB, for incline tho, for a diff windage tray and retarding the pick-up vacuum from the tray for like 30 secs or something during startup. Mine supposedly had that from production so the dealer and FCA were stumped as to why I had a pretty good puff (enough for my car racing neighbors to jibe me) a few times a week ish. My AC dipstick now reads low range, guess it's full!
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Old 08-23-2015, 07:50 AM
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Silvermax, would you mind posting where you bought that dipstick? I see it at Moparparts but I didn't check what the shipping cost would be.

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I bought it at www.mymoparparts.com it was like $11 for the stick and 7 to ship, so 18 is not bad. Becareful of the shipping at some of dealers some are rediculous. Doesnt show on amazon yet or i would have gone there.
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Re: Its the dipstick! On the hemi

My 2010 Commander HEMI's dipstick, at the recommended 7 quarts, reads right at the very bottom of the "safe" area. This always concerned me so I add an extra half quart to put it in the middle of the "safe" zone. A half quart won't hurt anything either way...
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Re: Its the dipstick! On the hemi

The mystery is finally solved. Thanks for posting! Spent a lot of wasted time with the blue smoke and adding oil.
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Re: Its the dipstick! On the hemi

Justin FYI to those effected and good news. I also thought bringing the Jeep in just for them to look atrocious verify the issue, then having to make another trip once the part arrived to be a hassle. I called my dealer and explained to them the situation saying that I plan on coming in for my complimentary first oil change soon and am effected by this TSB about incorrect dipstick. She asked for my VIN and TSB# and said no problem, the new dipstick will be here waiting for me when I come in for my free first oil change. I thought for sure they would be like no sorry you gotta come in and we have to see for ourselves what's wrong with the vehicle Nope! Just call them and they will order the part for free as long as the vehicle is under factory warranty :-)
Hope this info helps anyone that wants the new dipstick but would typically avoid multiple trips to a dealership at all costs (me).
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