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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

Not excusing Jeep, but I'd like to see a few more SUVs in this test...just would be nice to see how a 4Runner or a Pathfinder would do.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:33 AM
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

Mine has the stock coil springs, not even the load levelling shocks and has never felt unsafe to me. I do have to wonder if any suspension dampning was disabled. We do not get moose here but random tourists require similar evasion.

Will say that a good driver can sense harmonics & either dampen or re-enforce them (Amazing how you can make a Fiero dance with a few flics & never change speed or lane. Tailgating stops.)

Might mention that I do have some experience in yout (SCCA Nat'l, IMSA, FIA) but decided a few years ago that family was more important.
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

The failed moose test in the Mercedes A-class led finally into the now almost everywhere present stability controls.

Since that test is done for years, the the results are somewhat comparable, the other SUVīs shown handle much better (Touareg and Volvo)

Of course, it is completely unacceptable if tires pop of the rims, that should not happen under any circumstances.

Part of the problem has already be located in the weight of the GC, obviously not consistent with the manufacturers specifications.

Since already all sensors necessary for the stability control are installed, a software solution might be easily done.

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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

I wonder if a better/different tire would not pop off the rim.

Folks don't drive in the conditions shown in the video routinely, and typically don't try to make things bounce, just slam on the brake and turn. Folks are typically use the throttle all the time.. did you hear some fords, escapes I think, are showing symptoms of a sticky throttle, i. e. not returning to idle.
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Wow the ignorant comments on here are astounding.
IF this car has a problem Jeep need to fix it. Having front tyres blow out, or the car nearly roll is unacceptable.
Why do people not think this is not a bad thing, I sure as hell do and I am now concerned that any evasive manoeuvres on my car could result in a dangerous situation.
What's the ultimate purpose of this test? Whats it trying to prove? No rolling, a few blown tires, and no injuries so far. Seems like a pass in my book. Again, not an ideal outcome, but nothing catastrophic has happened from these tests. Some people get way to worked up over media hype and blow things out of proportion.


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OTOH an opportunity for someone to make an "Autocross and Moose Evasion" handling kit available (n/a with QL).
Too late, German engineers already did
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

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The failed moose test in the Mercedes A-class led finally into the now almost everywhere present stability controls.

Since that test is done for years, the the results are somewhat comparable, the other SUVīs shown handle much better (Touareg and Volvo)

Of course, it is completely unacceptable if tires pop of the rims, that should not happen under any circumstances.

Part of the problem has already be located in the weight of the GC, obviously not consistent with the manufacturers specifications.

Since already all sensors necessary for the stability control are installed, a software solution might be easily done.

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I understand that a new car has a glitch here and there, but what is the problem for a company to admit that they put cars early on the street and then get that fixed? 4wd-service, defective key-fobs, clunking noises, QL issues and now this, not a good start for the most selling, award winning SUV. I love my Jeep and will keep, so far. Still trusting Chrysler, that they put all the effort in getting all the issues fixed.

Not to be a dick or anything, but what are you talking about the Grand Cherokee not off to a good start? I think its been off to a DAMN good start and im sure sales figures prove that. Not only that but the WK2 is into its 3rd model year already so the "start" finished a long time ago. The WK2 has already proven itself. Tell me one single incident in real life where a WK2 rolled over from someone performing evasive maneuvers. I certainly havent seen any and I see WK2's everywhere these days. Im not saying this moose test is total BS, but come on lets face it if there was a serious flaw with the WK2 we would know about it.
P.S. what QL issues are you talking about? I hope your not talking about the few issues people have posted on this site and then generalizing all the thousands of WK2's on the road today.

Regardless, sure if there is some sort of problem then yes ofcourse I would like it investigated, but I have not heard of a single WK2 rolling over from this maneuver besides the one in this test (where smart people try to roll an SUV without helmets on lol).

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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

Sure we don't have to worry about moose here, but in Wisconsin we have a lot of problems with deer crossing Hwy's. They like to stay on the side and jump in front of the cars. You can see meat pieces and dead deer everyday. Only way to avoid contact when driving hwy speed is with sharp move with the wheel. So this test is not BS.
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Moose Test -- Full Story

If this test bothers anyone so much, either don't buy one or sell yours if you own one and get something that you'll feel comfortable in, or passed this ridiculous test.
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but I have not heard of a single WK2 rolling over from this maneuver besides the one in this test (where smart people try to roll an SUV without helmets on lol).
It didn't even roll over in THIS test. It came up on two wheels, but it didn't go over. Jeep investigated and had the magazine retest and They could not reproduce the problem.

Also, for those in an outraged and in a panic that their vehicle is going to spontaneously flip over, take a deep breath, and them look above your head at your sun visor.

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