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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

I think the Jeep interior looks better, hopefully they execute well on material quality. That is one place VW does it as good as any other car maker, they use great materials and don't give in to the bean counters mentality of introducing cheap bits in places they think people won't notice. Also I love how every single switch in their cars lights up, it may seem like a small point but it makes things much easier at night when every single switch is illuminated.
The new JGC looks amazing and world class, lets hope Jeep did not blow it on attention to detail.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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How do you figure?

TDI:
406 lbs/ft
225 hp

CRD:
420 lbs/ft
240 hp

Same rating on MPG 20/29 on the 4x4's.
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Not that they're never wrong. but that works out to 237hp.

VW says the TDI makes 240hp, and 406 lbft. So they're fairly close, but the Jeep's figures are before all the extra emissions crap necessary for the engine to pass US emissions.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

the specs he posted are straight from the Jeep spec sheet.....
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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the specs he posted are straight from the Jeep spec sheet.....
According to Allpar, 240hp is a DIN figure, and thus inflated over the SAE net figures that will come later as they don't include a lot of accessories.

Allpar could be wrong too though.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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Wikipedia says:[/LIST][/LIST]Not that they're never wrong. but that works out to 237hp.

VW says the TDI makes 240hp, and 406 lbft. So they're fairly close, but the Jeep's figures are before all the extra emissions crap necessary for the engine to pass US emissions.
Where did you get 240hp for the TDI? Just checked VW website... 225hp...

I would give up, the CRD beats it spec-wise... although its nothing huge.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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Where did you get 240hp for the TDI? Just checked VW website... 225hp...

I would give up, the CRD beats it spec-wise... although its nothing huge.
Strange, I just checked the VW website and see 240hp for the Touareg TDI.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

2012 Touareg - 225 HP
2013 Touareg - 240 HP

Torque hasn't changed.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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2012 Touareg - 225 HP
2013 Touareg - 240 HP

Torque hasn't changed.
That's very odd. Didn't think they made any changes for 2013. Kinda angers me they'd make changes and wouldn't add back in the luxury features from overseas (cooled seats and ACC). Oh well, sucks to be the bottom rung in the brand ladder I suppose.
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

Essentially same specs, but the jeep is a little heavier with the true offroad equipment -- only one MPG different though.

I went and looked at the Limited and Laredo X interiors and had the AAFES rep run some numbers for both the Limited Lux and Overland (MY13). He wouldn't do anything based off of Invoice -- saying "the program price will always work out to be as cheap as F&F pricing." He then added an extended warranty for $1850 and $1400+ for overseas shipping. I was getting very frustrated with him. I wonder how much it would cost Pat@fields to ship to Germany....
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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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2012 Touareg - 225 HP
2013 Touareg - 240 HP

Torque hasn't changed.
Yup, that's what it is.

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Re: JGC CRD vs. VW Touareg TDI

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How do you figure?

TDI:
406 lbs/ft
225 hp

CRD:
420 lbs/ft
240 hp

Same rating on MPG 20/29 on the 4x4's.
Actually both are 240 hp or so and fuel economy is 20/29 for TOUAREG and 20/28 for JGC.
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Thanks for clarifying the 2012/2013 difference... VW needs to clean up their website, contradicting numbers are a bit confusing:

240hp: http://www.vw.com/en/models/touareg/...TDI-Sport.html
225hp: http://web.vw.com/tdi-clean-diesel/index.php
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