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Re: JGC redesign moved possibly to 2019

Looks like the delay has nothing to do with maximizing profits, aligning with the Grand Wagoneer launch, etc. It's because the money is being diverted to new Alfa Romeo product. Maybe it won't be bad - the Explorer remained the top seller in the class despite no big changes for 6 years (2011-2015).

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Regarding the 5.7 fuel economy, mine averages 16-18 mostly on town. That's really not that bad. My best which was all Highway was 29.9
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Regarding the 5.7 fuel economy, mine averages 16-18 mostly on town. That's really not that bad. My best which was all Highway was 29.9
It's amazing what can be achieved with all downhill driving and a stiff tailwind.
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It's amazing what can be achieved with all downhill driving and a stiff tailwind.
Oh that's not even the half of it! Your missing the wheel well covers I had installed that pushes the air under the jeep. This creates a vortex and when this vortex exits from under the vehicle it creates what they call a vortex tail wind. The Force of a vortex tail wind has twice the pushing power.
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Oh that's not even the half of it! Your missing the wheel well covers I had installed that pushes the air under the jeep. This creates a vortex and when this vortex exits from under the vehicle it creates what they call a vortex tail wind. The Force of a vortex tail wind has twice the pushing power.

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It's amazing what can be achieved with all downhill driving and a stiff tailwind.
Don't forget coasting!.
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Honestly, they can afford to do this as they did huge refresh for MY2014. If they wanted to they could have called that a redesign. Look at the "redesign" Subaru outback that came out this year - LED DRL lights, some tweaks to the exterior and new infortaintment system.

MY11-13 look quite outdated right now but MY14, 15 + they are definitely still fresh and competitive. They barely got all the bugs worked out in that platform, why abandon it now? Maybe they can get better reliability ratings. There is another light refresh scheduled for MY16, should be enough for another 2 model years. Staying with the current platform for another year or two It just makes sense to me ...

All that being said I will stay away from first model year like from a wildfire. Way to many issues on a brand new 50k truck. Yes, things get fixed but every time I visit dealership It is like pulling teeth to get things fixed - "i cannot replicate the issue", "that is how it should work", "we don't have parts", etc ... I think I did hear every type of excuse possible.

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Re: JGC redesign moved possibly to 2019

Let's agree to disagree.

The fact is everyone has their opinions whether it's good or bad for the delay. At the end of the day imho I'm kinda glad they will milk whatever they can out of the current wk2. More parts for yrs to come. Some agree and others do not.
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Re: JGC redesign moved possibly to 2019

With all the Rams about the be bought back or recalled, I'm betting it has to do with money. I would like to see a better engine for the V6 and V8.
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Re: JGC redesign moved possibly to 2019

I see FCA just added 322,000 2011-14 Chargers to the recall list because the side curtain airbags can deploy if you slam the doors too hard.

They said 843,000 Rams were recalled last week for the same problem and adding the Chargers was the result of an internal investigation because of the truck recall.

Soooooo... when will the Jeeps be added?
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With all the Rams about the be bought back or recalled, I'm betting it has to do with money. I would like to see a better engine for the V6 and V8.
Ya .
I does have to do with money.

Not sure about how things work today but....


I do remember being taught the product cycle in college.

There are 4 stages of a good product.

1. Introduction
2.Acceptance
3 Maturity
4.Decline.

IMO.
The WK2 has not entered the decline stage yet.
Not even Maturity stage.

I'm not surprised they are riding out the latest refresh .

The continued increase in sales show its being very well accepted.
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1. Introduction
2.Acceptance
3 Maturity
4.Decline.
Interesting way of putting it. But I like it.
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