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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

Agree NC4...sometimes those boat ramps can be tricky. I've always feared rolling back into the water for some reason
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

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Thank you very much for the replies. I am feeling better about choosing the V6 with the 4WD. You are right Yadkin, in NC you may run into anything from the Mountains to the Coast....since I will be in both areas, the 4WD makes sense. Will probably not use it but 10% of the time but I will be glad I have it that 10% of the time....
I travel to the mountains every weekend during the winter and I may use 4WD 1% of the time. It's still worth it. I don't have the option of not going somewhere because there might be bad weather.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

Wow, nice ride though. Have had a couple of Wrangler TJ's in the past and I have literally driven it uphill and over down tree limbs in 14 inches of snow. The bottom of the Jeep was leaving marks on the top of the snow. All stock Jeep with Michelin XLT's on it.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

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Just FYI I used to run a E30325i with a LSD that was track prepped with 4 winter tires and the only thing that stopped me was the depth of snow. About 10 inches depending on the type of snow was all we could get through. Remember AWD and 4wd dont help you brake or turn. And you can exceed the capabilities of even the best electronic nannies.

I dont think the ORAI or ORAII package has that big effect on mpgs.

Get waht you want. Its the driver not the vehicle.
Well, I am glad that for full disclosure, you mentioned Limited Slip Differential and 4 winter tires. Equipped as such, you might do better than most if not all AWD cars with all season tires. I disagree though - AWD/4x4 does make a difference when you turn :-) Maybe you should ride in a Subaru next time at the track :-) And speaking of the depth of snow, my Subaru isn't going anywhere for the exact same reason. All my LSDs are worthless when it comes to the snow ruts around my house. I'd be beached before I left the backyard. 10 inches is definitely too high for me, unless it is freshly fallen soft snow that I can plow thru.

Anyways, as other people have mentioned, it is semantics but yes, in the interest of exactitude, there is no AWD Grand Cherokee. But in fact there is. Models equipped with ZF 845RE transmission and MP3010 Transfer Case without Low Range are essentially Full Time AWD cars, no better or worse than your Subaru / Audi and the like. This is found in the base Laredo trim. The optional MP3022 Transfer Case adds a 4x4 Low Range (Lock) in addition to the mode mentioned above.

http://wk2jeeps.com/2014/2014_wk2_specifications.pdf


It appears that the OP's wife would be happy with a Limited and above trim(s).
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

lol, yes and you know the wife has to be happy.

I'd love to go with the 5.7 and 4WD but you just lose too much in mileage. I think it goes down to 20 highway and 14 city with that combo. I do love the sound of the V8's though.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

OP,

You will not need 4wd ... unless,

Once you move to the beach you might decide it's fun to drive on it. People drive long distances just to get a chance to drive on the beach. When I lived near the beach on Long Island I was on the beach several times a week. We had a boat, but the beach was a nice place to go for a ride after dinner.


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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

I would say get 4wd with V6.
Probably 4WD is the only option you will get more than you paid when selling. A rwd GC will be hard to sell and go for much less than 4WD.

You may need 4wd on the beach too.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

4WD with V8.

The 4WD is a no-brainer. Do you NEED it? Maybe, maybe not, but it will be nice to have, and you are buying a Jeep, after all.

The fuel economy for the V8 is worse than the V6, but not by that much, especially in the real world. It was either Car and Driver or Motortrend that tested both and found the V8 to only get 1 MPG worse than the V6 in their testing. I've driven both the V6 and the V8, and there is a huge difference between the two engines, in my opinion.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

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how deep is that snow and where did you read that?
When equipped with the same tires, AWD/4WD >>> RWD !
You many have read about a RWD Jeep with dedicated snow tires doing fine in 2 inches of snow that was melting... On the other hand I heard that RWD cars excel in soft sand at the beach and/or on steep ramps when loading/unloading a small boat or jet skis.

Get yourself a V6 Laredo - essentially an AWD Jeep. Skip the trims offering a low range gearbox and/or off-road packages and you will have the added safety and security of AWD you desire and the fuel economy you need.
AWD helps in other than snow, e.g. heavy rain where it provides much better turning capability and NC weather does rain a tad.

As for RWD being superior on soft sand--only if the AWD/4WD driver confuses 4WD with being able to break the laws of physics and isn't particularly skilled in 4WD sand driving.

The fuel economy of the Hemi isn't that bad, you can exceed 19 mpg on highway trips even if dealing with continental divide grade mountains. Suburban driving can stay above 17 if the drive is consistently 40mph or better. City driving--well, ok, it sorta suffers. The V6 can use flex fuels, and the Hemi runs better on midgrade so it is more expensive to feed.

Trim level is a personal choice--but I've noticed at least around here that folks tend to either buy the Laredo or the Overland. Don't see that many Limiteds.
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Agree NC4...sometimes those boat ramps can be tricky. I've always feared rolling back into the water for some reason
Buy an Amphicar and shoehorn a Hemi into it.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

?!!! Crappy tires? Past weekend I drove in over 12 inches, sub-zero, with ice under new snow and enough snow buildup that the tires were dragging against the ice buildup underneath. Under 30-40 mph, no sliding, no wheelspin, no drama whatsoever.
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