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I traded my 2012 2WD Ram because I got it stuck 3 times and was tired of dealing with the hassle. Best decision ever. Besides...4x4s can do more than just grip snow.
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"Real world" fuel mileage between the 5.7L Hemi and the 3.6L Pentastar is better modeled using EPA figures, not from a magazine article. With the amount of driving I do I'm saving about $100/ month. Add in the cheaper gas, reduced initial cost and maintenance and the savings really adds up.

My weekly route involves serious long mountain grades and the Pentastar handles them nicely.

On top of all that, the lighter engine creates near perfect weight distribution, so it makes for a better handling vehicle all around.
To put the $100 a month saving in perspective; using the EPA HWY MPG and $3.00/gallon gas you would need to drive more than 4000 miles a month to save $100 a month on gas between the v6 and v8. Also, you can put 87 in the v8 so unless you are filling up with E85 there is no saving in gas price per gallon. I would argue that anyone driving that much the diesel would be the real money saver in the long run.

The only additional maintenance for the v8 would be the 30k interval for the spark plugs. So there is no major additional maintenance.

If you are someone who is trying to save money a SUV is not the vehicle for you whether it is the v6 or v8.

With all of that said if it were my money I would opt for the v6 with QTII. The v6 with the 8 speed and QTII is the best bang for your buck, IMO. Good luck and I am sure you will enjoy your Jeep.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:50 PM
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

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To put the $100 a month saving in perspective; using the EPA HWY MPG and $3.00/gallon gas you would need to drive more than 4000 miles a month to save $100 a month on gas between the v6 and v8. Also, you can put 87 in the v8 so unless you are filling up with E85 there is no saving in gas price per gallon. I would argue that anyone driving that much the diesel would be the real money saver in the long run.

The only additional maintenance for the v8 would be the 30k interval for the spark plugs. So there is no major additional maintenance.

If you are someone who is trying to save money a SUV is not the vehicle for you whether it is the v6 or v8.

With all of that said if it were my money I would opt for the v6 with QTII. The v6 with the 8 speed and QTII is the best bang for your buck, IMO. Good luck and I am sure you will enjoy your Jeep.
Maybe that's true in Iowa traffic with Iowa gas prices but not in Chicago, with often the nation's highest gas prices and eternal traffic jams, it is not true. In other words, when most of the daily commute is in free flowing traffic, the gap between the operating costs of a V6 and a V8 engine narrows as both engines operate closer to peak efficiency.

3 dollars a gallon of gas bro ? Come on now...I am lucky to occasionally find 87 octane for $3.59 (Jeep) and 93 octane $3.99 (Subaru).
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The idea wasn't to point out the price of gas but to point out someone would have to drive a lot (more than most do) to save about $100 a month between the v6 and v8 on gas. $3 is a nice round number but if you wanted to use $4 and city mileage you would have to drive over 3000 miles a month to save that $100 a month. 36000 miles in a year isn't unheard of but it is a lot. Oh and I ain't your bro, pal
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Maybe that's true in Iowa traffic with Iowa gas prices but not in Chicago, with often the nation's highest gas prices and eternal traffic jams, it is not true. In other words, when most of the daily commute is in free flowing traffic, the gap between the operating costs of a V6 and a V8 engine narrows as both engines operate closer to peak efficiency.

3 dollars a gallon of gas bro ? Come on now...I am lucky to occasionally find 87 octane for $3.59 (Jeep) and 93 octane $3.99 (Subaru).
The last time I filled up was for 3.05 per gallon of 87 octane. 3.39 for 93 octane. That was a week and a hlaf ago though.
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4WD with V8.

The 4WD is a no-brainer. Do you NEED it? Maybe, maybe not, but it will be nice to have, and you are buying a Jeep, after all.

The fuel economy for the V8 is worse than the V6, but not by that much, especially in the real world. It was either Car and Driver or Motortrend that tested both and found the V8 to only get 1 MPG worse than the V6 in their testing. I've driven both the V6 and the V8, and there is a huge difference between the two engines, in my opinion.
Maybe if you drive 2 different ways but in normal everyday driving there is no way there is only a 1 mpg difference. If that was the case the epa ratings would reflect it since their highway test is where the hemi would shine being able to run in mds the whole time. We get 21 combined in the summer with my wife's jeep, that is higher than the epa highway rating for the hemi.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

I'm not sure how boat launches are out on the least, er I mean East Coast but out here on the best, dang it, West Coast some can get downright rough. It's not a fun thing getting stuck at a crowded boat launch and there will be a cheering section but not in a good way.

In general I would think twice about skimping too much when buying a new car. Its one thing to skip a foo foo option, another to turn a vehicle that was designed with four wheel drive in mind into a really tall awkward station wagon. Waiting to save up a little more more money might not be a bad idea if you cant make the purchase you really want. Settling leads to regret.
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I'm not sure how boat launches are out on the least, er I mean East Coast but out here on the best, dang it, West Coast some can get downright rough. It's not a fun thing getting stuck at a crowded boat launch and there will be a cheering section but not in a good way.

In general I would think twice about skimping too much when buying a new car. Its one thing to skip a foo foo option, another to turn a vehicle that was designed with four wheel drive in mind into a really tall awkward station wagon. Waiting to save up a little more more money might not be a bad idea if you cant make the purchase you really want. Settling leads to regret.
I can definitely relate...I trailered a boat for years in Fla, and the only vehicle I had with the balls to tow was a 1974 Olds 88. It had a big 454 motor but sometimes at low tide when the tires of the tralier dropped off the end of the ramp and/or the car back tires were in the seaweed...it was uhhh problematic to say the least....and everybody is waiting to pull their own boats out. Oh it sucked! I was way too poor back then to have a boat AND a 4X, so I made do with what I had.
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

For 2014 the spark plug interval for the V8 is now 100K
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Re: JGC RWD vs 4WD?

I thought it was illegal to buy a 2 wheel drive Jeep.
Kinda like putting Coke in Jack Daniels whiskey. If that's not illegal it should be.
Grand Cherokee has full time four wheel drive. AWD is an entirely different system.
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I thought it was illegal to buy a 2 wheel drive Jeep.
Kinda like putting Coke in Jack Daniels whiskey. If that's not illegal it should be.
Grand Cherokee has full time four wheel drive. AWD is an entirely different system.
Everyone has their own definition but to most people in the industry AWD means all 4 wheels can be powerd but you have no low range. Hence qt1 is and awd system just like the srt8.
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LoL redrock your right.. When I was looking for my jeep I said wow this one is cheap I wonder why.. Then I saw RWD.. And I said what the hell!! BTW here in Chicago we have gotten 10' of snow the last 4 days and -40 with the wind chill and I will say my 13' Laredo V6 4x4 killed it.. And as you can imagine that snow turned in to snow cement.. Have not gotten stuck or had any issues and I park her outside.. The V6 is a great option if you'd like a little better fuel economy and still get great power.. But if you have the money to spend go for the Gusto
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