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Re: Keyless Ignition Lawsuit - FCA among the sued manufacturers

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Why does it even let you put the vehicle in gear if the key fob is no longer detected? On GM cars, if your key fob leaves while you are parked with the engine running, you can't move it out of park.
Well... has with Most Things Stupid...

There were probably LAWYERS involved.

Someone thought it would be better to have the vehicle remain drivable even without the key fob being present. They probably wanted to avoid complaints & lawsuits from people who were stranded when the battery on the key fob died, or a spouse forgot they had the keys and left.

You can't please everyone.

BTW, I like the idea of a PIN being required to get the vehicle out of park. But you know damn well that even IF they implement something like that, then a bigger, better Idiot will complain about losing or forgetting the PIN & having no way to recover it.

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Re: Keyless Ignition Lawsuit - FCA among the sued manufacturers

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Well... has with Most Things Stupid...

There were probably LAWYERS involved.

Someone thought it would be better to have the vehicle remain drivable even without the key fob being present. They probably wanted to avoid complaints & lawsuits from people who were stranded when the battery on the key fob died, or a spouse forgot they had the keys and left.

You can't please everyone.

BTW, I like the idea of a PIN being required to get the vehicle out of park. But you know damn well that even IF they implement something like that, then a bigger, better Idiot will complain about losing or forgetting the PIN & having no way to recover it.
Actually, someone thought it would be better to have someone be stranded when they fail to realize they don't have the fob and turn the vehicle off somewhere away from home or whoever has the fob.

They thought it would be better that an opportunistic thief stealing a running car could drive all the way to the chop shop without trouble.

If the battery in the fob dies, the system still should be able to be used to authenticate it by pressing the tip of it against the start button - just like when it dies and you have to start the vehicle. That would eliminate the PIN in that case.

For the cases where the fob is actually out of the vehicle, the PIN used is the same one you need to enter to use the remote start app. Anyone who makes use of that app would know the PIN. It's a PIN they can set up themselves. If they can't remember it, they probably have trouble getting money from an ATM, too.

For anyone that in the remote chance they fail to have the fob in the vehicle they have left running and can't remember their PIN, the lawyers are probably right on this one: better to have that guy be stranded (despite multiple warnings and workarounds) then a lawsuit from someone whose spouse and kids die when the vehicle rams them while being chased by the police after it's reported stolen.
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