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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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See FMVSS No. 108 regarding the brightness ratio, etc. required when there is another illumination source near a turn signal. Try not to fall asleep. If the DRL is not implemented via the turn signals, the DRL must be an obscurely specified distance and brightness ratio from the turn signal IF the DRL is left illuminated.

Where, since the DRL can be implemented with the turn signals, surprised no one uses them as part of the signal.

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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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Personally, as someone who has a pet peeve of people not using turn signals, I like the feature. The DRLs are there to make you more visible/noticeable during the day as not just a styling feature, but also for safety. Having them turn off where they could interfere with the visibility of the turn signals makes sense.
I agree with your point about visibility, but also like symmetry on my car. I don't need the DRL's to stay on at full intensity at all times. I would prefer both DRL's turn off when the blinker is on, that way you can see the blinker and the car looks symmetrical. Or even better, have the one headlight with the blinker going dim instead of turning all the way off, that way DRL's stay on for visibility and the blinker will be seen more prominently. I know this can be achieved right now by switching the lights to Park mode when driving in the day but it is a pain to switch it back and forth all the time, and it would be nice to program the automatic setting to function in the same way as Park mode during the daytime.


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I have a philosophical question. Why do people care what lights that you cannot see while driving do if it is as designed?
Why make any exterior modifications to your car at all, and not just leave it as it was originally designed? You can't see most mods while you're driving.

Maybe some of us like to make changes to the car that we think will make it look more appealing to us and others that see the car while we drive it!
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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

This is sort of like the Glossy Wood on Steering Wheel (for vehicles with open pore wood trim) thread. Should we start an OCD thread?
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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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Why make any exterior modifications to your car at all, and not just leave it as it was originally designed? You can't see most mods while you're driving.

Maybe some of us like to make changes to the car that we think will make it look more appealing to us and others that see the car while we drive it!
The mods are visible to you when you are out of the car. I doubt (could be wrong) that you are going to stand in front of your Jeep with a directional going, just so you can admire the DRLs.



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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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The mods are visible to you when you are out of the car. I doubt (could be wrong) that you are going to stand in front of your Jeep with a directional going, just so you can admire the DRLs.
But but but I CAN see it in the reflection off the shiny car (some people actually keep their cars clean!) in front of me!!
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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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This is sort of like the Glossy Wood on Steering Wheel (for vehicles with open pore wood trim) thread. Should we start an OCD thread?
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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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Why make any exterior modifications to your car at all, and not just leave it as it was originally designed? You can't see most mods while you're driving.

Maybe some of us like to make changes to the car that we think will make it look more appealing to us and others that see the car while we drive it!
For me, if I make an exterior modification, it is functional or something I can see, feel or possibly hear. I like the factory PSE exhaust on my Boxster S as it sounds really good (to me), and adds a few hp. I have put Euro lights on cars because the OE US lights were awful.

When I see someone driving with their rear fog lights on and it isn't foggy or snowing so hard that I you can barely see, I think they don't what they are doing. (My actual thoughts are something along the lines of, "Does that guy know how stupid he looks?") Same with this. IMO, it serves no purpose, you can't see it and it can be distracting to other drivers, so why would you want to? Yes, some people like to change things just because they can and so they can add another line to their sig with the list of "mods" in on line forums. Sorry, that is just MHO. I guess the good part is that it would be a reason actually use the turn signals, which is a positive.

Another example; I drove a friend's car who had 10k HID bulbs in his car. The lighting was horrible to the point you could barely see. I would call it unsafe and kind of stupid, but he liked the purple color. To each their own I guess...
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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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The mods are visible to you when you are out of the car. I doubt (could be wrong) that you are going to stand in front of your Jeep with a directional going, just so you can admire the DRLs.



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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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If your rear passenger door had a dent in it wouldn't you fix it? It still functions, and you'd rarely if ever see it so why would it matter?

Some of us like having things that look nice and not dumb. One light on looks dumb.
Using that logic, maybe it would be better to use hazards instead of the turn signals. With the turn signals only one side is flashing - kind of asymmetrical/dumb looking.

There is a good reason to turn the DRL off; so that people can see your turn signal. When I first saw that on another oncoming car at an intersection, I thought hey, they really thought that out. Cool. If I see a car with DRL in the headlight and it does not turn off with the turn signals, I think that someone added aftermarket DRLs.

Not trying to pick a fight here I just don't get it...
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Re: LED DRLs - can we stop the "winking"

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Using that logic, maybe it would be better to use hazards instead of the turn signals. With the turn signals only one side is flashing - kind of asymmetrical/dumb looking.

There is a good reason to turn the DRL off; so that people can see your turn signal. When I first saw that on another oncoming car at an intersection, I thought hey, they really thought that out. Cool. If I see a car with DRL in the headlight and it does not turn off with the turn signals, I think that someone added aftermarket DRLs.

Not trying to pick a fight here I just don't get it...
Not very good logic, a turn signal obviously wouldn't tell people where you were going if both were blinking.

I just don't see any way possible someone could miss my blinker because the DRL is on. A bright orange flashing light doesn't become invisible because it's got another string of white lights around it.
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