I am within days of ordering a Grand Cherokee, my first domestic car in 10 years. I am 100% settled on the Grand Cherokee, and am going to order it from the factory from my local dealer because I am excited about it and I have done a ton of research and know exactly what I do want - Red with Black leather interior, V6, Commandview roof, 730N Navigation, 20" Rims. I may get the adaptive cruise & luxury package if I get a Limited. The features in the Luxury package come standard in the Overland.
Here is my question - I do like the overland but am feeling the limited is a safer option. It is not a matter of the extra couple grand that, I have a lot of concerns about the Quadra-Lift - I remember seeing all the sagging Lincolns and other cars with air suspensions. What is the advantage of the Overland vs a Limited? I am trying to decipher also what benefit does the air suspension actually provide? Is there any other advantages to the Overland. What are the long term costs of the Quadra-Lift, am I setting myself up for a 4 grand repair at 40k or 50k.
I travel quite a bit, I camp, drive in the mountains and in poor weather, but am not going to take this car rock climbing or anything like that. It's worst case use is dirt or unpaved road and poor weather. Are my concerns justified at all about the quadra-lift? Am I missing something is there some big benefit I am unaware of? The cost is not really a factor as MSRP for the Limited with 730N, 20" Rims, Trailer Tow Package is about 42,500 and the Overland is about. 43,800 - I just want trouble free vehicle that is enjoyable and versatile for long trips and around town and can do light off road and towing.
I bought the limited with lux 2, 20's, and 730n. Basically an overland without QL. I too preferred the leather wheel over the fugly wood one. Only thing I like better o overland is the cross hatch type grille over the vertical strips on the limited. I really want to get the summit grille but wifey doesn't like that one..
Go with the overland! I test drove them all and the v8 overland summit is the only way to go! I feel like I should be driving a $100k vehicle it just dont compare! Don't get buyers remorse, I mean if you get the fully loaded every option and you don't like then the JGC isn't for you, but if you don't get it And decide that you should have gotten more options then ya kinda screwed yourself! I wanted to wait for the CRD but I just couldn't so once it's released I will be trading in for another overland summit with the CRD!!!!
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I originally bought my limited spec'd out like an Overland. I can say that it rides very smooth even here in DC. My cayenne turbo has the air suspension, however it is used completely differently than Jeep does. I am happy that I didn't go with the QL because I wouldn't use it since I don't offroad often enough and I don't tow. I have never been in a situation where I thought the ride was harsh or that I was wishing I was in the Cayenne. But since I am no longer traveling for work, I have decided to sell mine. Either one you will be happy with, it just comes down to needs over wants and the price you are willing to pay. I feel that you might get a better deal on a limited spec'd out since its not the top of the line model (just dont attempt to trade it in!!)
Nik
All i can say people don't be afraid of the QL. I wasn't ,You will never know when you will need the QL ( flooded roads, snow drifts, muddy roads, old lady transport. :lol: Doing repairs, & mods on the GC that require a few more inches "" and last Overland Resale.
I vote overland! I love the grand with the air suspension and it rides like a dream, no issues at all so far and have been offroading as well as using the settings while driving. As others have stated I got the extended coverage just in case. If anything ill say get the overland I think the trim is a really great overall look and feel to it.
I see that you also have a Cayenne S. I'm curious as to a comparison between the two. I was on the fence when shopping between a 2008 Cayenne S or JGC., I went with the Jeep because its newer and repairs/maintenance are more cost effective. But, I guess when you buy a Porsche, its something to factor in.
I know they are different animals, but wanted to get your thoughts.
I had this same debate before ordering: I was dead-set on ordering a limited with Luxury II Package. Right before ordering, I test drove both a Limited v6 4X4 and a Overland v6 4X4. The Overland felt more luxurious, even though I know the Limited can get a similar package added. And first I didnt like the wood steering wheel, but after a few minutes, I didnt notice it. The QL made the ride so nice and smooth, and I was sold.
As far as reliability on the QL, I'm planning on getting the Lifetime warranty. 1800 - 2000 dollars will save you money in the long run if their are issues. I know people do not want to be inconvenience by repairs, but you also get a rental car as part of the plan.
While I'd recommend the Overland, I don't think you can go wrong either way.
Agreed with above statements... just stay away from a turbo and/or turbo s. Coming from someone who owned an 2010 SRT8 GC, straight line fast is fun, holding a corner at speed and then accelerating out of it is to die for!
Aiyer- funny I had the same thing- a 2008 Corvette for summer driving and a 2005 Mini Cooper S for winter- traded the Mini for a 05 Cayenne S. Now have a 2006 Cayenne Turbo S waiting for me in Texas when I get home.
Nik
My old man is a cayenne fanatic. I've driven the 08 turbo and 10 gts when he had them. To be honest didn't notice much of a difference between the two. Cayennes are great everyday drivers. I agree with the above comment about how the seat position and style makes you feel like part of the car. Pure German engineering there.
I went in to buy a Limited or less but long story short I drove away 4 days later in a JGC Ov Summit 4 months ago. Without all the gory details I will just say what I would do this time.
I would get a 4x4, 5.7 and get a model without the leather. So if it comes with manual knobs for the AC etc instead of the electronic dual zone unit,, ok no problem.
from there I would be putting in my own alarm system ( read up in forums how bypassable the stock sytem is with one jumper wire or clip, not feeling real confident about that, and the distance on the remote sucks hard ). My viper remote was good for like a mile and had an lcd display that was real nice.
I would be putting in an aftermarket stereo system like the latest and greatest Alpine Double din with Nav. If research showed that the nav was really not that great I would go with an aftermarket that I can simpley leave on the dash or window mount. No need for it alll the time anyway!
The seats I would have covered in "Katskins" it costs about 800 dollars for the front and backs and looks ( and feels according to the user ) better than the limited leather. There are some pics in forums here I think. And honestly cloth seats would be just fine anyway.
The reason for the 5.7 Hemi is one for power reasons. Also the exhaust note from the aftermarket cat-back systems on the hemi is way better thsan the V6 ( so far ). The look af the dual exhaust is killer compared to the single v6 ( there is a dual exhaust kit available on aftermarket though but requires some extra mods. ( rear bumper and towing eq. become a minor issue to deal with $$ ). The Hemi badge is way too cool. And it so nice to have the extra throttle when you need it. Although the v6 is spunky and can cruise at speeds quickly, the quirks that lead to throttle lag etc are a bummer when you want to kik down to get her moving quicker. There have been a few occasions where I worried as the vehicle wasnt reacting as quickly as I liked to pressing down on the gas.
I would then adress the rims. The market would be wide open as to what rims I would put on. There a few options that I would explore. I happen to love the 18 polished rims that came with my OR2 package. I didnt want the 20's because of NY streets. Tougher ride and chance for easier and $$$ damage to them. been there done that got the recieptfor repairs and new rims. If the 18 inch rims are your fancy like they where mine I would buy them from the internet I think they where only like 240 a piece as compared to the package price of the OR2. Honestly didnt need all the skid plates and stuff for my use.
So all in all my thinking now is that I should have bought a lower model and built on it myself from there. If you have the cash and $$ not an issue compared to the footwork of doing and chasing all the extra add ons, then I would say the O and OS is a nice buy.
But if I could turn back the clock I would be in a Limited or less right now, bumping my system with my single sunroof ( extended sunroof on mine makes me nervous ). Sitting in my Plush katskins, testing the temperature in my car with my remote from my apartment, revving my engine once in a while at a light with my Corsa cat-back exhaust or was it Borla lol?, stomping on the gas on a back road somewere while my Hemi sprang to life, and enjoying some of the left over cash in my pocket each month.
All that said I really love my OS even with the few issues that still need to be ironed out.
Just my experience and what I would do differently.
Why not just get the Overland if you're willing to pay for the Limited? I guess if you don't want the QL, but the price is so close if you are between the two. I feel like you should just go Laredo X or Overland. Are there any good review/tour videos for the Overland online? All I can find is some 13 boy doing a walk through.
I avoided an overland to avoid the QL and wood steering wheel which i think is hideous...
my limited with the lux pack, 20's, and 730N was just as much as an overland but i didn't care since i definitely didn't want to deal with QL issues i a couple years...it was just something I wasn't sure about having... and didn't really need... sometimes i think...man i coulda had that extra bell and whistle for the same price...but i am 100% glad i got the limited over the overland... and to compare laredo x to overland..thers a big difference with some of the standard features like HIDs , pano roof and rear heated seats just to name a few...Limited has those, x doesn't..standard that is.. just my 2 pennies
I kind of agree with the idea of the Limited kind of being lost in between the Laredo X and the Overland. Really the only thing the Limited has that I would want is the memory seats. HIDs would be a plus, but not a huge deal. The Overland is just a nicer package IMHO, with the leather dash, better quality piped seats, real wood trim, the better grill trim on the exterior, and the availability of the saddle interior.
I chose the Laredo X because I didn't really want it to be too fancy, but had I not done that I would have gotten the Overland.
See I had to have the 20's, luxury package and HIDs which weren't an option on the x. Plus with the lux package supposedly u get te better leather seats minus the piping which I didn't care for either. That's the beauty, jeep offers alot of options in alot of trim levels.. Alot of car makers have too many restrictions on stuff like that.. And to some the limited isn't a good option but I didn't even look at an x for the price and lack of things the limited had.. The only thing the overland has I wish my limited had is the cross hatch grill over the vertical slot grill.. But that's minor... I personally would add the summit grill to my limited if the wifey liked it.. She doesnt. So I wont hahah
if you can't decide between an Overland and a Limited, just get a Summit. Or a Laredo X. The overlapping options thing makes it tough. Didn't like the MDX when we went shopping, but they only have two choices, so it was easier to decide which one not to buy.