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Chains should only be on rear wheels on WK2

Manual says so!
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Re: Locking the center differential

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You missed the post where he says that most of that path is much steeper than the photo (it is almost level in the photo). And it is not a road but dirt path if I understood correctly
Around that bend in my picture is the steepest part of my drive way which wasn't shown and my driveway is a dirt road were ice is caked under the snow. If my car can get threw that and other more "interesting" places, he should be able to get threw what he got going on even in "auto" mode.
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Re: Locking the center differential

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Trust me, from your picture it seams like my driveway is a little bit steeper.
LOL, the picture I posted is the only level part of the trail. I was helping to push the wood up the hill and we stopped on that level part to take a break. That's when I snapped the picture. From the picture that you posted, I'd say that your driveway is nowhere near as steep of a hill. But I don't want to turn this into a pissing match.... just trust me when I say that the trail is nothing like any driveway I've ever seen.

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Re: Locking the center differential

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Ever considered chains for all four wheels? Might be your best option. If only two chains...put 'em on the fronts....what I was always told. Then 4 Lo is a cake walk.

Once chained all 4 wheels on my old suburban when getting out of an elk hunting camp in Idaho. Pushed snow with the front bumper for almost 30 miles to get to the main hiway. Some curves on mountain roads scared the spit outta me....but I had my elk loaded and the rack on the roof. Big blizzard all the way though the mountains and all the way back to MN. Listend to the Twins win the World Series while driving over the mountains with chains. What a trip.
I have considered that, but only if absolutely necessary. It would be a major pain the in ass to install chains just to drive a 1/4 mile up the hill. Then I'd have to take them off again at the bottom. I'd rather just have a vehicle that can make it up and down without messing with chains. I'm really curious to know if the WK2 (or the WK for that matter) can make it. When the snow gets really deep, one of the locals uses his backhoe to "plow" the trail, so that helps too.
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Re: Locking the center differential

To summarize this entire thread:

You'll be fine.

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Re: Locking the center differential

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To summarize this entire thread:

You'll be fine.


I'm not so sure about that, which is why I started this thread in the first place. I'm not ready to buy a new SUV at the moment, but I'll probably be in the market in a year or two. The new 4Runner isn't on my list because they made it extremely ugly now, so I need to find a vehicle that will be as capable as my current vehicle. The only two vehicles I'm absolutely sure about are the Land Rover LR4 (a bit more money than I want to spend, but not out of the question) and the Nissan Xterra Off Road w/rear differential lock. I've heard the Jeep Commander has ESLD front and rear on its QDII system, so that might have been an interesting choice, but I believe 2010 is the last year it will be produced.
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Re: Locking the center differential

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I have considered that, but only if absolutely necessary. It would be a major pain the in ass to install chains just to drive a 1/4 mile up the hill. Then I'd have to take them off again at the bottom. I'd rather just have a vehicle that can make it up and down without messing with chains. I'm really curious to know if the WK2 (or the WK for that matter) can make it. When the snow gets really deep, one of the locals uses his backhoe to "plow" the trail, so that helps too.

Well.....you probably mean the front end loader on a tractor, that also has a backhoe on the rear....cause a backhoe is mainly used to dig a hole. So....if that is avialble to you, why not just get this guys phone number and get him to plow you out before you go to your camp? Those few dollars for snow plowing could save you allot of agony. If your road / trail is plowed, I'm sure the JGC will go up the hill.

We have some land with trails that are not the best for winter travel with ANY wheeled vehicle as the snow gets a little deep too. Sometimes you need to select another means to get 'er done...dont you think? I mean at some point your just going to get hung up....no?

OH....and I also own a 4 WD tractor and loader.....and I'll gauantee you that I cannot go on as steep of a hillside with the tractor as I could with a Jeep....for fear of tipping the tractor......so, as said....if he can plow it, you can drive it.
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Well.....you probably mean the front end loader on a tractor, that also has a backhoe on the rear....cause a backhoe is mainly used to dig a hole. So....if that is avialble to you, why not just get this guys phone number and get him to plow you out before you go to your camp? Those few dollars for snow plowing could save you allot of agony. If your road / trail is plowed, I'm sure the JGC will go up the hill.

We have some land with trails that are not the best for winter travel with ANY wheeled vehicle as the snow gets a little deep too. Sometimes you need to select another means to get 'er done...dont you think? I mean at some point your just going to get hung up....no?

OH....and I also own a 4 WD tractor and loader.....and I'll gauantee you that I cannot go on as steep of a hillside with the tractor as I could with a Jeep....for fear of tipping the tractor......so, as said....if he can plow it, you can drive it.

LOL...yeah, I don't really know my large equipment. I honestly don't know the difference between a backhoe and a front end loader, so I'm not sure what he uses....it's some big piece of equipment. I know the guy, but not very well. He does clean up the trail heading up occasionally, but not just for me. The trail is used by other people as well. The problem is that it snows up there constantly. So even if he cleans it up, chances are good that there will be significantly more snow by the next day.

Unless there's a ton of snow on the trail, I can usually make it up. I enjoy the challenge, but it does suck when I can't make it and we end up lugging our crap up on foot. Luckily, that doesn't happen too often. It's all part of the experience for me....and having a secluded cabin in the woods is fun. The cabin is pretty basic--No running water (so we shit in an outhouse), the only electricity is a 12-volt system that runs off deep cycle marine batteries, and a nice wood burning stove. We go up at least once every winter for a long weekend and everyone who goes always has a good time, even if getting up there is a pain in the neck.
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Re: Locking the center differential

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I'm not so sure about that, which is why I started this thread in the first place. I've heard the Jeep Commander has ESLD front and rear on its QDII system, so that might have been an interesting choice, but I believe 2010 is the last year it will be produced.

All pre 2011 WK Grand Cherokees & Commanders with Quadra Drive II have front & rear ELSD. In 2011 they eliminated the front ELSD. Just get a 2010 or earlier model.
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Re: Locking the center differential

You're just going to need to rent one for a weekend, and try it out yourself. What vehicle do you use now to get up that hill?
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All pre 2011 WK Grand Cherokees & Commanders with Quadra Drive II have front & rear ELSD. In 2011 they eliminated the front ELSD. Just get a 2010 or earlier model.

Maybe the 2011 system is just as good?
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You're just going to need to rent one for a weekend, and try it out yourself. What vehicle do you use now to get up that hill?
That's a good idea, if I can find a rental with QDII or maybe QTII.

I currently use my 4Runner, but I have to lock the center differential in 4HI to make it all the way up.
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