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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

I had an Overland 2013 and I just got a 2014, they have the exact same wheels and tires but the '14 does not have the locks.


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From your signature photo....looks like you live in a rough neighborhood...not. LOL Do people really steal rims unless you street park in a rough urban area?
Yep, I once dropped my car off for service at the dealer the night before. Got a call the next morning. When I got there, my car was sitting on blocks, all 4 wheels gone. The real insult was they broke into the trunk, used the jack and lock tool to get them off.
Don't do that anymore. Dealer made good on it.
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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

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My jeep came with a locking wheel lug on each wheel. Someone last night pointed out to me that they are the wrong type and totally useless because they stick out to far. Said they can easily be removed with a pair of vice grips. Do your vehicles have these type of locking lugs???? Or are they shorter??


When i was looking for lock nuts i came across two part numbers for the Grand Cherokee, 82212564 and 82210879.
I think the Mopar part number for the wheel nuts you have is 82212564, see picture


Part number 82210879 picture is below


You can see from the 2 part numbers the shaft is longer on the 82212564.

I didn't want the look of the lock nut sticking out like you have and wanted a more flush look, so I bought the shorter lock nut (82210879) and checked that the lock nut fitted correctly by placing a piece of 'blu tack' inside the lock nut and tightening it to the wheel, seeing if the cone portion sits flush to the rim and then removing it and seeing how much the blu tack has been squashed. There was sufficient room left that the tip of the lug was a few mm from touching the inside end of the lock nut.

My locking wheel nuts (82210879) sit flush with the original wheel nuts and don't look out of place as pictured.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:15 AM
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The SRT doesn't come with wheel locks either. It may be a dealership courtesy add on
The locking wheel lugs and splash guards were on the Jeep. I guess they could have been dealership courtesy. Also on it was the window etching (something I could careless about) they did get me for $300.00 on that!
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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

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My jeep came with a locking wheel lug on each wheel. Someone last night pointed out to me that they are the wrong type and totally useless because they stick out to far. Said they can easily be removed with a pair of vice grips. Do your vehicles have these type of locking lugs???? Or are they shorter??


I had to pay extra for mine on my Overland
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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

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When i was looking for lock nuts i came across two part numbers for the Grand Cherokee, 82212564 and 82210879.
I think the Mopar part number for the wheel nuts you have is 82212564, see picture


Part number 82210879 picture is below


You can see from the 2 part numbers the shaft is longer on the 82212564.

I didn't want the look of the lock nut sticking out like you have and wanted a more flush look, so I bought the shorter lock nut (82210879) and checked that the lock nut fitted correctly by placing a piece of 'blu tack' inside the lock nut and tightening it to the wheel, seeing if the cone portion sits flush to the rim and then removing it and seeing how much the blu tack has been squashed. There was sufficient room left that the tip of the lug was a few mm from touching the inside end of the lock nut.

My locking wheel nuts (82210879) sit flush with the original wheel nuts and don't look out of place as pictured.
Good Job! Those look a lot better than the ugly over long 82212564 that they are pushing as the correct ones on everyone.
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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

I challenge your friend to remove a lug nut with a pair of vice grips, that is torqued to at least 100ft/lbs, maybe more torque if the mechanic at your local dealer is a non torque wrench using knuckle dragger that put it on with an impact gun until the thing would no longer turn.
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I challenge your friend to remove a lug nut with a pair of vice grips, that is torqued to at least 100ft/lbs, maybe more torque if the mechanic at your local dealer is a non torque wrench using knuckle dragger that put it on with an impact gun until the thing would no longer turn.
I agree it would be pretty difficult to get them off. However the ones that are pictured above (short shaft ) should have been installed. I figured they came on all Jeeps but from what I am reading it's dealer installed after the fact.
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Def dealer installed.


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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

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When i was looking for lock nuts i came across two part numbers for the Grand Cherokee, 82212564 and 82210879.
I think the Mopar part number for the wheel nuts you have is 82212564, see picture


Part number 82210879 picture is below


You can see from the 2 part numbers the shaft is longer on the 82212564.

I didn't want the look of the lock nut sticking out like you have and wanted a more flush look, so I bought the shorter lock nut (82210879) and checked that the lock nut fitted correctly by placing a piece of 'blu tack' inside the lock nut and tightening it to the wheel, seeing if the cone portion sits flush to the rim and then removing it and seeing how much the blu tack has been squashed. There was sufficient room left that the tip of the lug was a few mm from touching the inside end of the lock nut.

My locking wheel nuts (82210879) sit flush with the original wheel nuts and don't look out of place as pictured.
I used Mopar #82212567 locks on mine. I believe they are the same size as the 82210879's. They sure look the same when mounted on the vehicle.
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Re: Locking wheel lugs Useless?

Just a quick question, has anyone actually had a wheel (not just a spare) stolen?

Please don't take my question the wrong way, not being sarcastic or what not, I am just curious if anyone has actually had a wheel stolen before. I was thinking about it and realized I have never actually known anyone that has had a wheel stolen off their vehicle ever. I guess a lot depends on where you live esp. in urban areas and if you street park, etc.

While a locking lug nut is a very cost effective deterrent for a causal wheel thief it wouldn't do much to the dissuade a professional thief with a "shopping list". Heck the professional thief with a shopping list takes the whole car too!
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Around Detroit and Flint, Michigan stealing wheels and tires is still today a common practice. I lived in Flint for 5 years and trust me anything that isn't bolted or welded down is considered fair game. Even a few things that are bolted or welded down are considered fair game. A few weeks ago some idiot in Flint broke into a house and was stealing metal pipes when he hit a gas main. He blew the house clear off of the foundation. Luckily no one was home or near by at the time. Car jackings are still quite common around here as well. Years ago my dad took his brand new Dodge Dart down to Olympia in Detroit to watch the Red Wings play. This was back in the days of steel wheels and little hub caps. After the game he came out to find his car up on blocks with the wheels and tires stolen. The thief apparently tried to get the spare in the trunk too but was unsuccessful in popping the trunk. So he or she took a crow bar and bashed the trunk lid in. When I used to live in Allen Park the car insurance companies used to tell us not to lock our cars. They said if a thief really wanted to steal a car or break in no lock is going to stop him. They said a thief would only do more damage to a car if it were locked.
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