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Old 11-06-2013, 12:50 PM
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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

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Buy a new vehicle.

The one you just bought was not designed to "race"...you should have looked at the SRT instead.
I would not go as far as to say that. maybe he didn't have the money for an srt, and there is nothing wrong with wanting to make the V6 a little more fun to drive. I did it with my 3.7, and its more fun to drive now then it was stock and I still get excellent fuel mileage on the high way.
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:23 PM
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Buy a new vehicle. The one you just bought was not designed to "race"...you should have looked at the SRT instead.
Yes. Some people do not have 65k to blow on an SRT.
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:34 PM
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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

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Yes. Some people do not have 65k to blow on an SRT.
Then the OP should've bought a 5.0 Mustang.

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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

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Not trying to sound like a dirtball, but there is no replacement for engine displacement.
Although yours rhymes better, the original was no substitute for cubic inches, preceded by all else being equal.

Which, even the alleged source, Carroll Shelby knew not to be true, or so limiting as to be untrue since all else is not equal.

For the OP, gearing and a lot of low end torque can win the 0-30 sprint over sheer power. By about 60 things begin to even out, by a 1/4 mile you can almost compute horsepower by the 1/4 speed and many vehicles can start off in second and hit the same speed by that time.

See if you can find a belt driven supercharger, although the 8 speed might be able to hold up to braking to force an exhaust turbo to spool up to decent power.

Or, try nitrous injection for the rare occasions when you are next to a hemi--and sniff for the bleachy smell just in case the hemi driver doesn't like stock engines either.
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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

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Although yours rhymes better, the original was no substitute for cubic inches...

For the OP, gearing and a lot of low end torque can win the 0-30 sprint over sheer power. By about 60 things begin to even out, by a 1/4 mile you can almost compute horsepower by the 1/4 speed and many vehicles can start off in second and hit the same speed by that time.
Nowadays high hp cars are able to exceed available traction with current tire technology on road going tires beyond 60 mph making these tests pretty much traction/launch tests anyways.

To the thread, unfortunately there really is very little low hanging fruit to go after because OEMs have pretty much picked up most of the possible efficiency gains thanks to CAFE and the ever rising hp bar. There are few cars left where you can bolt on a set of cans, change the air filter housing (what people now call intakes) and that sort of thing and gain much real world power. About the only nearly sure bet with most NA cars is long tube headers and HFCs or deleting them all together if you want to chase down that last 5 hp. Nitrous can be very fun, very cool, but very tricky to use long term reliably.

IMO if you simply must go forward (I had a 1 ton dodge diesel that I had up to 600 hp, performance really is a sickness...) I would first look into long tubes. Real legitimate power and they are easy to install yourself and remove later if need be for emissions or to sell when you trade. Want more, consider a blower. This will give you substantial power and when purchased in kit form from reputable shops can usually be run reliably. A centri is easier to take off and sell at trade time and comes at a lower buy in. Much beyond that and its going to be cheaper to move to a different vehicle.
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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

I agree with crabman when it comes to naturally aspirated engines - you cannot do much to make it faster. In some cases, modifications can even make performance worse or have other non-desirable side effects.

Though not relevant to our JGC, turbo engines are relatively easy and inexpensive to make faster, via aftermarket tuners' ECU chips that increase the boost, advance the timing, etc. These mods usually void warranties. Some add these chips after their warranty expires. Some engines go kaboom!
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ok this is what happened,i raced a new ram hemi and I almost beat him but he got me around 50mph,other than the cai what would be a good recommendation? I was surprised I even kept up with him that long lol
Jeep5.7 ignore the nay Sayers.
You had plenty of reasons to choose the V6 and now you have every right to want to maximize performance!

On top of the good advice from Scott and the rest I think that there is a supercharger kit for the pentastar. And of course you can tune it.

That being said I think that you must now change your user name to Jeep3.6 just to show these guys :-)
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Then the OP should've bought a 5.0 Mustang.

Touche......
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:11 PM
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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

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I would be foolish to seek power via conventional means on an normally aspirated engine. On a turbo- or super- charged vehicle, there is power to be found via tuning and via bolt-ons. Sadly on the N/A cars, not so much. There are things one can do like lighter pulleys, free flowing exhaust or RAM air but none amount to a silver bullet the way upgrading the turbo plus a tune works on a Subaru

I would like, one day, to try and fit a supercharger to the Jeep.
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Long tube headers would be a good option for a hemi but considering the V6 doesn't even have manifolds that might be a big issue.
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Re: making the 14 v-6 a little faster

Maybe the Ram had a 1,000 lbs of dirt in its bed?
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Long tube headers would be a good option for a hemi but considering the V6 doesn't even have manifolds that might be a big issue.
lol Bastards are ruining it for us. Regardless that would present a problem wouldn't it? Gains would be limited to what could be had with HFCs or deleting the cats altogether so less to be had there for sure. Wonder if it would be raspy or produce drone?
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