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I pick up the Hemi tomorrow! Since refueling Sunday, the average on my V6 rental WK2 is down to 17.6. I did a little more stop and go one day, and I went up to park city once in "snow mode," and I swear it burns more fuel in that mode. I will do some engine break-in this weekend on the hemi, and then reset the average before the work commute Monday and see how the Hemi does on fuel next week.
I am averaging 15.2 right now in altitude with a mix of snow mode and auto. About 2mpg less then the V6 you are currently driving.

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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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I am averaging 15.2 right now in altitude with a mix of snow mode and auto. About 2mpg less then the V6 you are currently driving.
We don't know how much stop and go you are doing in comparison to my driving. That is what is so great about my 2 week rental in the V6. I can do a straight comparison.

I can tell you that after picking it up today, and driving 80 miles, I LOVE the hemi! First of all, it sounds freaking awesome! I can't believe people are buying exhaust upgrades for the hemi. It already has a great growl, and is plenty loud. I did a bunch of driving around town for over an hour, accelerating moderately to 3,000-3500 rpm to help seat the rings, and then slowing down, etc. I then reset the avg, and drove up to Park City and back with a few thousand feet of climbing. I was in and out of tow/haul mode so MDS wouldn't activate when it flattened out. I was varying my speed and gears. I can tell you that in auto mode, it was in overdrive a lot while climbing, and never went lower than 4th gear. I was about 1,000 rpm lower on the steeper sections that I had been with the V6. As a result, even with MDS blocked with tow/haul, and varying speeds (which burns more gas) I still averaged 17.5mpg for the round trip. I can't wait to see what it does next week on my commute, but I'm beginning to think that up here, with the hill climbs, the V8 will get close to the same gas mileage as the struggling V6 did....
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

Update. I switched to snow tires after my initial weekend in the Hemi. I'm getting ready to fill back up, but according to my EVIC, I'm averaging 15.1 for the last 3/4 tank (all with snow tires). That means that I'm getting 2-3mpg less with the HEMI than I was getting with the V6. Part of that though, is probably the tires. The HEMI is also louder than the V6, and I actually don't like that as much as I did initially. I initially thought that anyone who gets the V6 is making a mistake. I no longer feel that way. In fact, if you aren't towing, or climbing a lot at high altitude, the V6 is the way to go, IMHO. Around here, I still think I made the right decision, as the hemi makes it over the mountain passes with ease.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi! Well-good for you!

Agreed. Seems that some (not all) of the Hemi dudes seem to have a bit of a superior air. Not sure it makes them a wiser person (or not as wise for that matter). I do have a Hemi 2010 Limited now, and ordered the overland in the V6. I may miss the hemi when its gone, but hopefully will not regret the change.
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Yeah, you got us. Blue hairs, every one.

I've yet to figure out what's so threatening about people being happy with the V-6 that there's people with the Hemi constantly making such comments. It's almost like you're continually trying to justify the thing to yourself.

There are indeed uses for which the Hemi is a better choice. But there are quite a few people who DID drive both and decided the extra cost, increased fuel consumption, and higher fuel grade requirement were not justified based on their perception of the performance difference.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

The Hemi Dooshbags, of which I am one, aren't superior, though we are faster. Just sayin.

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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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The v6 may be o.k. in Chicago, but if I had the V6 here in the Rockies, I would shoot myself.

You will shoot yourself as soon as gas will jump over $5/gallon anyway ... HEMI is something left out from 60-70th monster engines time and eventually will die you like it or not.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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You will shoot yourself as soon as gas will jump over $5/gallon anyway ... HEMI is something left out from 60-70th monster engines time and eventually will die you like it or not.
The death of the Detroit V8 has been predicted for the last 37 years, ever since the first oil embargo in '73. While I agree that when gas gets to costing as much here as it costs in Europe for the last decade people's buying habits will change but there will always be a market for high performance. There are plenty of vehicles sold in Europe, where gas has been over $5 / gallon for decades that get less than 15 MPG to warrant building them, just not as many as we buy here in the states.

The real facts are the "HEMI" of today bears only a badge resemblance to the real "HEMI" of the 50's and 60's. It also produces more power and gets roughly twice the fuel economy of the motors of years gone by. Technology marches on and although it's days may be numbered, there will always be a market for a high torque, cheap motors in trucks and limited production sports and luxury vehicles. I say "cheap" because for their output the current crop of V8's sold by the American car makers are much cheaper to produce than smaller, more fuel efficient power plants for similar output. The "HEMI" will only die when a suitable smaller displacement replacement is developed. A Pentastar V6 with a super charger or twin turbo's (aka Ford's Ecoboost) would be a great package for a Grand Cherokee but until something close to the performance if the 5.7L HEMI is ready the V8 will remain on the option list.

BTW, even at $5 / gallon the average driver will see less than $1000 / year in additional fuel expense so the economics don't bear out the emotional reaction to more expensive gas. I would hazard a guess to say that if you can afford a $40K vehicle you can stomach another $80 / month in fuel expense.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

Personally I had the HEMI with my 06 Limited...and I will say I enjoyed every minute of it...even threw on a Flowmaster with a straight pipe...sounded like a beast...loved it...but at that time I could not afford the high gas prices matched with the low mpg I was getting...yes it was my own fault because I had a lead foot...I blame the HEMI on that one....so when the lease was up(only got it because I had family who got me the employee pricing) I looked into buying it or leasing it another year and the numbers were too much...especially since I had just bought a house.....

Now here I am in 2011...I chose the V6 because I got a great deal on it(brother is fin manager at Jeep)...I didnt feel I needed the HEMI at this time...did I want it, oh you bet your a$$ I did...but the price I got for the V6 laredo with the X package was more than enough for me...but again, I had my taste with the HEMI...so maybe if I never did then I would have opted for the HEMI this time...none the less I am very satisfied with the power of the new V6..they did a great job in adding the necessary hp to the new engine...
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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I initially thought that anyone who gets the V6 is making a mistake. I no longer feel that way. In fact, if you aren't towing, or climbing a lot at high altitude, the V6 is the way to go, IMHO.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

Well, I know one thing, when I look at the V8 City Gas mileage thread I am thankful to have a V6, I wouldnt be digging 11-12mpg city. I am sitting around 17 city.

With that said, I still think they are both fine engines and either one matches nicely with the WK2, depending on what your needs/wants are. I would be happy with either one. If I hadnt just come from a diesel crackhead F250, I may have gone with the Hemi, but honestly I needed a break from the gas pump after that experience.

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You will shoot yourself as soon as gas will jump over $5/gallon anyway ... HEMI is something left out from 60-70th monster engines time and eventually will die you like it or not.

As soon as gas hits $5 ALL WK2 drivers will be in a pickle. Remember what happened to SUV resale values when gas hit $4?
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

Xmonger, if you want to re-live that experience now, just come up here to Quebec. It's been $1.25 a liter for the last month. Thats $5.00 a U.S. gallon...and our dollars are at par these days.
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