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Old 01-03-2011, 12:24 PM
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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I'm just stating the facts: there have been several posts of people unhappy with the gearing or power of the v6. None of those with the v8. in fact people are happy with it and happy with their fuel economy. And there have been some who were disappointed with the power and towing capacity and even fuel economy of the v6.

Of course there are those such as you who will defend their v6 decision to the end of time but on JEEP GARAGE the posts dont support that.

But I have nothing against the 6 just that it is unproven and underpowered. .... But as far as I am concerned as long as people are happy with their new jeep that is the important thing.
If you have nothing against the V-6, then why be one of the ones who trashes it at every point? While there are those here who complain about the feel of the V-6, there was also the overwhelming majority of professional testers who preferred the Pentastar to the Hemi (now who did the research?). As for the Jeep Garage posts, there's people who griped because the WK2 didn't swallow their hitch in the way they wanted it to. People gripe about anything.

I'm glad the folks with the V-8 are generally pleased with their choice. Those of us with the V-6 are also generally pleased. I'm fine with people saying they like their own engine, but I notice that there's a bunch of the eight cylinder owners who love to poke at those who didn't go for the Hemi. Just scroll up and look at your own comments about us driving like grandma if you need a refresher.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

Not to take this thread OT but I have to add my two cents as one who really liked the V6 and tried to get a WK2 with it but couldn't find what I wanted and ended up with a Hemi...and no regrets. That said, the Pentastar is an excellent powerplant for non-performance-oriented daily grind duty; it will be much more competitive to the Hemi for "butt dynos" when it gets mated to the ZF 8sp (better launch gearing).
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

TS, it's all just good ribbing on the grandma comments. You're always gonna get that garbage from us Hemi hogs that get a combined 15 MPG or less, gotta haul stuff at altitude, or just have lead right feet. I still love the old Hemi commercials below, 'cause I'm that boneheaded guy.

Despite test driving and being very impressed by the Pentastar, I completely agree with the OP. If you're going to do any or all of the activities mentioned by the OP, or just want your SUV to also have some ballz, then the Hemi is the way to go.

I also believe that the Hemi is a safer vehicle if you're using it at altitude or for towing, though that statement may admittedly draw some flaming. The 5 speed tranny also doesn't feel outdated to me at all with the Hemi. Chicken or egg?



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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

It was a tough decision when I ordered mine. I ended going with the V-6 after considering fuel economy I drive a lot of miles. I have about 6400 miles on it now and I would say the 6 is just adequate. If I had to do over again I would probaably go with the 8. I think the 6 has the power it is just hard to unlock it because the transmission seems to be programmed to do everthing it can to keep the engine out of the power band. As soon as the enigne gets into the band where it wants to pull strong the trans upshifts. But overall I am very happy with the vehicle.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

To me, both engines were slow by performance car standards.... so I got the v6 and kept my car -shrug-
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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I guess, who gets a Hemi did their homework and they are happy with that. if you notice this thread is started by someone that bought a hemi and he has to justify his choice ... btw he says that the V6 is downshifting in 3rd gear at 68mph 4-8% hills. This does not makes sense to me . I might be wrong but it might be 4th gear. going back to my point. he got a hemi and he is happy with that and who got a v6 is doing the same thing(looking for justification that V6 is the right choice). My view is that I got V6, I am very happy with the power, I find the downshifting and rev up on acceleration normal. I am not happy with the fuel consuption of V6. I get 12.5 L/100km on highway at best and the rating of the vehicle is 9.0L/100km on highway(you might get this if you drive very slow and do not accelare to overtake others or slowly climb the hills to conserve the gas). Why would someone drive the V8 and get a 14-15L/100km on hwy? My answer is if you live close to mountains or you are a fan of powerful engines or your lifestyle requires it.
The rating for the V6 in switzerland is average 11.4L/100km - and the Hemi is 14.1L/100km. Our speed limits are 120km/h, 100km/h, 80km/h, 60km/h and 50km/h.
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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To me, both engines were slow by performance car standards.... so I got the v6 and kept my car -shrug-
Both engines are slow, so you got the slower one? Got it
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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The rating for the V6 in switzerland is average 11.4L/100km - and the Hemi is 14.1L/100km. Our speed limits are 120km/h, 100km/h, 80km/h, 60km/h and 50km/h.
In Canada, we have rating for hwy 8.9L/100km and for city 13L/100km. Our speed limit is 110km/hr hwy, 80,70,60,50. depending on how much hwy, i have average from 13 to 17L/100km with V6.
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TS, it's all just good ribbing on the grandma comments. You're always gonna get that garbage from us Hemi hogs that get a combined 15 MPG or less, gotta haul stuff at altitude, or just have lead right feet. I still love the old Hemi commercials below, 'cause I'm that boneheaded guy.

Despite test driving and being very impressed by the Pentastar, I completely agree with the OP. If you're going to do any or all of the activities mentioned by the OP, or just want your SUV to also have some ballz, then the Hemi is the way to go.

I also believe that the Hemi is a safer vehicle if you're using it at altitude or for towing, though that statement may admittedly draw some flaming. The 5 speed tranny also doesn't feel outdated to me at all with the Hemi. Chicken or egg?
I have to wonder why you're out feeling trannys. But yeah, there are definite times when I can certainly understand wanting the Hemi- heck, if I didn't have a truck I could use for what little hauling I do, I would have just gotten the V-8 too. Since the Grand Cherokee doesn't have to do the hard work, it gets the smaller engine.

I'm cool with the ball busting, but sometimes it doesn't really seem like it's just good natured ribbing. I do agree that the W5A580 transmission, while smooth, isn't geared ideally, but my recommendation for the Pentastar owners is to get familiar with that Select Terrain knob and/or be willing to use the autostick feature at times. Get the revs up and the Pentastar is indeed a willing partner.
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but my recommendation for the Pentastar owners is to get familiar with that Select Terrain knob
Can you share some of your learnings? We did not have much snow yet in Toronto, I used the snow mode once. I was not able to find much difference between Auto and Sport(ie driving experience, gas consumption ...). I am currious what those differences are. Thanks,
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I have to wonder why you're out feeling trannys.
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In Canada, we have rating for hwy 8.9L/100km and for city 13L/100km. Our speed limit is 110km/hr hwy, 80,70,60,50. depending on how much hwy, i have average from 13 to 17L/100km with V6.
umpf... 17l .. i hope only in the city? 13 is ok for me, but 17L is to high. That make me thinking about to wait and check the new diesel - in about 4-6 month.
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