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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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Why I really bought the V-6 rather than the V-8
based on 100,000 miles. For ease of math 20mpg for v-6 versus 15mpg v-8.
savings in cost of gas at $3 per gallon = $ 5,000
savings in initial cost = $ 1,500
savings in time stopping to fill up every = 9.6 hrs PRICELESS
400 miles versus every 300 miles 7 min per
stop
NOW IF I CAN JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE BARBER TO CUT MY HAIR WHILE I'M DRIVING.
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Boy, if MPG is that big of a deal, you could have bought many cheaper and/or more fuel efficient vehicles.
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Boy, if MPG is that big of a deal, you could have bought many cheaper and/or more fuel efficient vehicles.
There isn't another vehicle with the looks, space, off-road capability and wonderful road manners in one package. If the WK2 fits someone's needs in all areas but fuel economy, then they pick the V6. Makes sense to me. Why get the V8 and pay more if you have no desire/need for it?
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:11 PM
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There isn't another vehicle with the looks, space, off-road capability and wonderful road manners in one package. If the WK2 fits someone's needs in all areas but fuel economy, then they pick the V6. Makes sense to me. Why get the V8 and pay more if you have no desire/need for it?
I agree with everything you said, but the poster made no mention of how perfectly the WK2 fit his/her needs nor of a lack of desire/need for the V8, the only reference was to saving money on gas.
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There isn't another vehicle with the looks, space, off-road capability and wonderful road manners in one package. If the WK2 fits someone's needs in all areas but fuel economy, then they pick the V6. Makes sense to me. Why get the V8 and pay more if you have no desire/need for it?
I agree completely...and this is coming from a guy who's had more V8 vehicles than anything else by far. To me, new V6 engines make all the power I need in an SUV. If I towed heavy loads, I'd definitely go for the V8, but since I don't tow anything over 3500 lbs, I really don't need it. My snowmobiles & trailer are really the heaviest thing I tow....
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I agree completely...and this is coming from a guy who's had more V8 vehicles than anything else by far. To me, new V6 engines make all the power I need in an SUV. If I towed heavy loads, I'd definitely go for the V8, but since I don't tow anything over 3500 lbs, I really don't need it. My snowmobiles & trailer are really the heaviest thing I tow....
True. Today's modern V6s make just as much HP and, in some cases, way more than V8s from 10-20 years ago. Although, low-end torque can't be replace without larger displacements or forced induction.
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Ordered my V8 Overland this morning :-) I have driven both and I wanted the Jeep to be somewhat fun and I just did not experience that at all driving the V6. Even though its by no means like a 4 banger, I kind of got the same feeling I get if im driving a car with a 4 cylinder. Kind of noisy engine and seemed like it was screaming and crying when you get on it. The Hemi just sounds perfect and kind of makes the entire driving experience different.

Also, if fuel economy is your concern consider this. The difference in cost in one year between the V6 and V8 is aproximately what like $500 bucks. If your worried about that amount over the span of an entire year then I have a feeling a vehicle as pricey as the new WK2's might have not been the best purchase.

Again, im not putting the motor down because I think its great they offered the 6 in the limited and overland, but its just not for me.

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Old 01-04-2011, 08:36 PM
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Re: Man am I glad I ordered the Hemi!

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Why I really bought the V-6 rather than the V-8
based on 100,000 miles. For ease of math 20mpg for v-6 versus 15mpg v-8.
savings in cost of gas at $3 per gallon = $ 5,000
savings in initial cost = $ 1,500
savings in time stopping to fill up every = 9.6 hrs PRICELESS
400 miles versus every 300 miles 7 min per
stop
NOW IF I CAN JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE BARBER TO CUT MY HAIR WHILE I'M DRIVING.
RAY
Although I respect your decision to buy the V6, I think your looking into it a bit much. You do realize that based on your 100,000 mile figures that your $5,000 savings in gas money was over a time span of over 8 years!!!! (based on a avg of 12,000 miles a yr) yes 8 years or about $625 a year. If your concerned about that amount of money then I dont think a thirsty SUV with any size engine was a good choice.

Not only that but your estimate of the V6 being 5mpg better than the V8 is a little on the generous side. Remember that smaller V6 is lugging around the same weight as that more powerful V8 is.

Just another way to look at it.

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I agree with everything you said, but the poster made no mention of how perfectly the WK2 fit his/her needs nor of a lack of desire/need for the V8, the only reference was to saving money on gas.
I think we should feel fortunate that we drive in north America, gas in Europe is at least double the cost ... just think of getting a V8 there ... They sell Porsche Cayenne hybrid rated at 370HP (you pay 15k more to gain some gas savings)... and gas V6 or V8 is just a fraction of any cars sales. Diesel is king ... Therefore, gas is a major factor in any car buying decision ... Per poster, we save 6k by going V6 over V8. In Europe that is at least 12k ... If you need the extra 70HP power get it, for me the extra 70 HP is not worth it and I don't need it. If I remmeber correctly from Milous stats a few months back, Chrysler sells more V6 than V8 and this shows that there are more of us that think this way out there.
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Also, if fuel economy is your concern consider this. The difference in cost in one year between the V6 and V8 is aproximately what like $500 bucks. If your worried about that amount over the span of an entire year then I have a feeling a vehicle as pricey as the new WK2's might have not been the best purchase.
Well, you also have to factor in initial purchase price ($2000 on the Overland), increased fuel prices (not just consumption, but ten to fifteen cents more per gallon, which doesn't go as far). Then the increased maintenance costs... everything about the Hemi costs more. Now, you're correct that we aren't talking about a huge amount more, but it comes back to the needs, desires, and subjective feeling of the buyer.

If the buyer feels the six to be sufficient, doesn't need QDII, won't be towing, and lives at lower altitudes, there's absolutely zero reason to get the V-8. Sure, it doesn't cost THAT much more, but why pay it if you don't feel any positive result?

I think most of us Pentastar owners would have been plenty happy with the Hemi. I also think a good chunk of the Hemi drivers would probably have been served fine by the Pentastar. But to each their own, and as long as each person is pleased with the purchase, it's all good.
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Well, you also have to factor in initial purchase price ($2000 on the Overland), increased fuel prices (not just consumption, but ten to fifteen cents more per gallon, which doesn't go as far). Then the increased maintenance costs... everything about the Hemi costs more. Now, you're correct that we aren't talking about a huge amount more, but it comes back to the needs, desires, and subjective feeling of the buyer.

If the buyer feels the six to be sufficient, doesn't need QDII, won't be towing, and lives at lower altitudes, there's absolutely zero reason to get the V-8. Sure, it doesn't cost THAT much more, but why pay it if you don't feel any positive result?

I think most of us Pentastar owners would have been plenty happy with the Hemi. I also think a good chunk of the Hemi drivers would probably have been served fine by the Pentastar. But to each their own, and as long as each person is pleased with the purchase, it's all good.
I absolutely agree. Well said!
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This will actually be the first V-6 I have ever purchased for myself (bought a v-6 camaro for my son). I presently drive a ford expedition approximately 20,000 miles/year (about 300 miles between fillups). Also will be my first jeep as a primary vehicle. I have a 1999 GC (4.7 v-8) which I keep in Oregon for summer use and enjoyed driving it so much that I decided to try a GC as my primary vehicle. The v-8 in the 1999 GC was more than adequate so I thought I would try the new v-6, since it has more hp (unfortunately not as much torque). The biggest thing I tow is a 13' boston whaler 20-30 miles at most. Hopefully I will not be disappointed with the v-6. Actually I do hate to stop and do two things. One, to stop and put gas in my car (hopefully I won't have stop as often). Two, to stop and get a haircut. Looking forward to getting my Overland this month as it is built and in transit.
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Back OT. Note this is the Hemi thread.

So all you momma's boys with weak sauce little panzy arsed gas sipping V6 toy engines move over into the slow lane, OK?




























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