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When did they start that? Mine was a, "dealer deal". Then again, mine's a Limited.
I'm not sure if it was MY16 or MY17. It's called Jeep Wave. From what I have read it is free with some models and you can pay for membership.

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i'm not sure if it was my16 or my17. It's called jeep wave. From what i have read it is free with some models and you can pay for membership.

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When did they start that? Mine was a, "dealer deal". Then again, mine's a Limited.
2016 Model-Year Vehicles with Jeep® Wave...
Cherokee Overland, Cherokee Trailhawk, Grand Cherokee Overland, Grand Cherokee Summit, SRT, Renegade Trailhawk and Wrangler (All).

I just got my gen-u-wine temporary green plastic membership card in the mail yesterday. They're trying to get me to sign up for a membership. As an added incentive, they also included two tiny "Jeep" decals. They recommend placing them in the upper corners of the windshield to "show your pride" wherever you go.

LMFAO... ummm, no thanks. I'll let the vehicle speak for itself.
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:10 AM
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2016 Model-Year Vehicles with Jeep® Wave...
Cherokee Overland, Cherokee Trailhawk, Grand Cherokee Overland, Grand Cherokee Summit, SRT, Renegade Trailhawk and Wrangler (All).

I just got my gen-u-wine temporary green plastic membership card in the mail yesterday. They're trying to get me to sign up for a membership. As an added incentive, they also included two tiny "Jeep" decals. They recommend placing them in the upper corners of the windshield to "show your pride" wherever you go.

LMFAO... ummm, no thanks. I'll let the vehicle speak for itself.
They want members to wave to each other to spread the word. Without the stickers no one will be waving to you.

I'm wondering if the Wave thing had anything to do with the price of MaxCare. The salesman at the dealership said the prices went down after he put my VIN in the system. Since the Wave gives Summit (and other) owners 2 years of first day rental, Max Care saves some money.


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Re: Maxcare opinions

I showed the online prices of Maxcare to the dealer and he said "your better off going with them because I can't even come close to that".
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Mine "came with" 3 oil changes. I asked the approximate value of that, and she told me she didn't know. So I asked her to please check with the Service Dept. She did so somewhat reluctantly, and came back and told me "around $150.00". I told her I wasn't interested, and to just knock $150.00 off the total.

After a lot of back and forth, (most of which was her and some guy from the Service Dept. who followed her back into the room), they told me they couldn't do it, "because of the paperwork involved". I came back with $100.00 off, and just forget the "paperwork". I then asked them if they really wanted to tank a cash deal on a new vehicle sitting on their lot, for a lousy $100 bucks? They finally agreed.

This is just another in a long list of why I hate new car shopping. They think you're dumb enough to believe any of this kind of crap is "free". Just like BMW and all of their "free maintenance" for 3 years, or whatever. You're paying for every cent of it. No matter if you want to believe it or not. And you're not getting any bargain doing it.
It would be just as dumb for you to walk away over $100 as them. And if you had already agreed on the price when you started haggling over the value of the oil change, I would call that not very gentleman.

They don't make a ton of money and free service is built in. It's like asking for $2000 off if they cancel the 3/36 warranty. It just doesn't work that way. I'll bet a lot of rolling eyes in the back rooms were happening.

If you plan to have service done there you are probably on their PITA list already. All for a $100 on $50K vehicle.

You hate it because you make it hard. It's been a pleasure buying my last 3 Jeep's.
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Was extremely disappointed to learn the maxcare lifetime warranty is not available on the diesel. Guess I will settle for the 8 year/125k mile.

Exactly why I opted for the standard Pentastar V6 instead of the Eco diesel. And Diesel engines are really heavy.


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It would be just as dumb for you to walk away over $100 as them. And if you had already agreed on the price when you started haggling over the value of the oil change, I would call that not very gentleman.
Oh please, spare me. Since when is it "gentleman" to charge people for services they don't want, need, or have agreed to? Let alone tell me something is "free" that isn't? I have zero sympathy for car dealers, with all of their bait and switch routines. If I want a damn oil change, I'll ask for it. They're not doing me, or anyone else any favors charging for oil changes before you have them done. Or worse still, never asked for, but are forcing you to buy. What's next, charging for 4 extra tires at the time of sale, because eventually you're going to need them?
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They don't make a ton of money and free service is built in........You hate it because you make it hard. It's been a pleasure buying my last 3 Jeep's.
Built into what, their profit margin? I don't give a damn about their economy. I worry about mine. And please explain to me how it's, "free" if they were willing to knock a $100.00 off? And your right, I hate being charged for services I don't want, need, or ever asked for. If you find that "a pleasure", I've got a few dealers who would love to meet you.
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Built into what, their profit margin? I don't give a damn about their economy. I worry about mine. And please explain to me how it's, "free" if they were willing to knock a $100.00 off? And your right, I hate being charged for services I don't want, need, or ever asked for. If you find that "a pleasure", I've got a few dealers who would love to meet you.
My attitude toward buying a car is a little different than yours. I decide first what vehicle and options I want and what I think is a 'fair' price to pay. If I get it for that price, or anything less than that, I don't dwell over what they called free or what else they try to sell me. As long as I get what I want for what I want to pay the rest is just a bunch of gibberish.

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....I decide first what vehicle and options I want and what I think is a 'fair' price to pay.
That's all fine and well. And it's exactly what I did. I knew nothing about the "free" oil changes that were so conveniently "included" in the price, until they started the paperwork. That's when she sprung it on me. About how the price included "3 free oil changes". Having enough common sense to know there isn't a car dealer on planet Earth that is going to give anything away "free", I declined them.

I politely informed her I change my own oil, and have no reason to take a vehicle to the dealer for anything, unless it becomes totally necessary. So I couldn't see paying for something I didn't want or need. That's when I asked what they charge for an oil and filter change, and to simply knock it off the price. She then told me she didn't know, and went and got the Service Dept. involved, and it went from there.

Nowhere in the dealership did they have any signs or advertisements stating every new car sold came with this "deal". Had they been more up front about it, I would have dealt with the salesman over it. I don't like surprises being pulled at the last minute during a sale.

No matter how you want to look at this, it turns out to be nothing more than a forced sale of 3 oil changes that I did not need, or want. So why should I pay for them? It makes no sense. In fact, if they had any sense they would have come back with, "We can't deduct anything from the price because as we told you, they are free". But instead they told me what the cash value was, and they ended up deducting a large portion of it. Thereby proving to me they were in fact anything but "free".
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That's all fine and well. And it's exactly what I did. I knew nothing about the "free" oil changes that were so conveniently "included" in the price, until they started the paperwork. That's when she sprung it on me. About how the price included "3 free oil changes". Having enough common sense to know there isn't a car dealer on planet Earth that is going to give anything away "free", I declined them.

I politely informed her I change my own oil, and have no reason to take a vehicle to the dealer for anything, unless it becomes totally necessary. So I couldn't see paying for something I didn't want or need. That's when I asked what they charge for an oil and filter change, and to simply knock it off the price. She then told me she didn't know, and went and got the Service Dept. involved, and it went from there.

Nowhere in the dealership did they have any signs or advertisements stating every new car sold came with this "deal". Had they been more up front about it, I would have dealt with the salesman over it. I don't like surprises being pulled at the last minute during a sale.

No matter how you want to look at this, it turns out to be nothing more than a forced sale of 3 oil changes that I did not need, or want. So why should I pay for them? It makes no sense. In fact, if they had any sense they would have come back with, "We can't deduct anything from the price because as we told you, they are free". But instead they told me what the cash value was, and they ended up deducting a large portion of it. Thereby proving to me they were in fact anything but "free".
Actually, the dealer is probably eating that $100 refund because the oil changes are from Chrysler and the dealer doesn't get anything until it performs those changes - just like warranty work. My vehicle came with a wallet card from Chrysler covering those oil changes; though, what good a wallet card is, I have no idea.
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