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Old 03-05-2014, 09:57 PM
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Do they supply these from the factory at all? If not, what does the GC generally come with (depends on wheel size, I suppose)? Actually I really would wish for some AT tires, but I'll probably just run whatever comes on the GC until they wear out.
The last two gc's I've had came with Goodyear fortera. Not a tire I'm in love with....
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Re: Michelin LTX M/S2 update.....F.Y.I.

OEM on 18" wheels in Michelin ALtitudes and on 20" wheels are Goodyear Forteras. For winter driving get a set of winter tires either Bridgestone Blizzaks or Michelin Ice's. ATs and MTs just dont perform as well as winter tires in the snow and even in dry on road when the temps are 45 degrees or below.
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Old 03-05-2014, 10:06 PM
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The last two gc's I've had came with Goodyear fortera. Not a tire I'm in love with....
Ditto!!! 2 GCs as well, same tire. I want to say i have read that some people with the 18s got Michelin's?
I had a 4unner that had some awesome michelin ATs. They were great!
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Re: Michelin LTX M/S2 update.....F.Y.I.

OEM on the 2012 Laredo X package was the Michelin Latitude Tour. Basically a couple steps down in price and performance from the Michelin LTX M/S2.

As someone else pointed out, I like the look of an All Terrain tire, but I'm not sure I wish to give up the quiet ride and fuel mileage that a street tire offers.

I keep coming back to the Continental CrossContact LX20 tire.
Check them out on TireRack.
Great UTQG ratings, decent price, and the TireRack survey points are pretty high also.

Just turned over 20k on the OEM Michelins. Not great in the snow, but much better than the Bridgestone tires on my Subaru (total crap tires). With my driving style, I figure I have about another 20K on them and it will be time to replace them.
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Do they supply these from the factory at all? If not, what does the GC generally come with (depends on wheel size, I suppose)?

Actually I really would wish for some AT tires, but I'll probably just run whatever comes on the GC until they wear out.
18's get michelin latitudes, 17's and 20's get Goodyear Forterras. Get a good set of A/T tires and there shouldn't be much of a mpg drop. Unless you are driving in snow 90% of the time I wouldn't get snow tires. You guys do seem to get a decent amount of ice but you also seem to have mild temps throughout winter. Of course we have had more days below zero than I can count so anything above 20 seems warm to me. It is supposed to hit 40 here next week and I'm thinking about wearing shorts and having a bbq.
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Re: Michelin LTX M/S2 update.....F.Y.I.

Michelin LTX M/S'2s at 42,000 miles- Great in snow, quiet, minimal wear. Bad on ice probably due to harder rubber for longer wear.
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Re: Michelin LTX M/S2 update.....F.Y.I.

Greetings,

Selecting an all season highway or even an AT tire for the snow/ice season is always a compromise. Do you want the longer tire wear or safety is more of a priority? Can you live with some noise or you like a touring type of tire? Unless you need the maximum grip, then a dedicated snow tire is the way to go. A lot more of the European tire technology including the AT tires has been making it's way over to us.

The M/S2 is very good tire and covers a lot of different categories. ICE is ICE and you have to deal with it with respect. Thus, a softer tire compound or even studs is the requirement.

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Greetings,

Selecting an all season highway or even an AT tire for the snow/ice season is always a compromise. Do you want the longer tire wear or safety is more of a priority? Can you live with some noise or you like a touring type of tire? Unless you need the maximum grip, then a dedicated snow tire is the way to go. A lot more of the European tire technology including the AT tires has been making it's way over to us.

The M/S2 is very good tire and covers a lot of different categories. ICE is ICE and you have to deal with it with respect. Thus, a softer tire compound or even studs is the requirement.

Best for now.
I consider a snow tire to be a compromise. They are softer to deal with the snow and ice but try towing a big trailer behind you, you are praying that a semi doesn't pass you and blow you off the road. I believe a a/t tire is perfect for all around driving in everything but ice, and for the 1 (maybe) time per year I drive in ice I think I can manage. I am much more afraid of the people who drive 30 mph down the interstate and 20 mph down main roads in 2 inches of snow than I am myself losing control.
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Re: Michelin LTX M/S2 update.....F.Y.I.

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I consider a snow tire to be a compromise. They are softer to deal with the snow and ice but try towing a big trailer behind you, you are praying that a semi doesn't pass you and blow you off the road. I believe a a/t tire is perfect for all around driving in everything but ice, and for the 1 (maybe) time per year I drive in ice I think I can manage. I am much more afraid of the people who drive 30 mph down the interstate and 20 mph down main roads in 2 inches of snow than I am myself losing control.
Greetings,

I agree with you totally in your post. I forgot about those you have to tow.

When I was researching AT tires, I settled on the Nokian Rotiva AT and meets all my needs. It does give more grip on the ice, but short of Nokian all season tires. Even Cooper's AT3 is going the European methods and GY is slowly coming around via Dunlop's (GY owns them) technology.

As i said earlier in the thread and in your post, the real danger will be from those who drive why to slow and in panic mode when their is light snow.

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Re: Michelin LTX M/S2 update.....F.Y.I.

I've had both, and I'd take the Forteras over the Latitudes any day. Forteras are better in snow. Neither are great tires. The old Michelin Cross Terrains were much better than Latitudes. Michelin should have kept them. The only WK2 that had good tires, were the Trailhawks. Very few cars come with decent OE tires. Cost and rolling resistance are the main characteristics manufacturers care about when picking tires.
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I've had both, and I'd take the Forteras over the Latitudes any day. Forteras are better in snow. Neither are great tires. The old Michelin Cross Terrains were much better than Latitudes. Michelin should have kept them. The only WK2 that had good tires, were the Trailhawks. Very few cars come with decent OE tires. Cost and rolling resistance are the main characteristics manufacturers care about when picking tires.
If the trailhawk tires (wrangler silent armor's) came in a 245/70R17 size I would put those on my wife's jeep in a heartbeat.
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I just read my Consumer Reports April magazine, and they rated The Michelin LTX M/S2 as the top dog for SUV's and light-duty pick ups. I can only say I do agree with CR. I just purchased the tires just before Christmas so they should do a good job. Still quiet and smooth at highway speeds. I certainly would recommend these tires.

Thank you for the review and the info about CR. I just had my Michelin Latitudes rotated this past Friday and it won't be long before they'll need to be replaced. I discussed options for new tires with the shop owner and although several tires were mentioned he had really good things to say about LTX. Then he walked me outside and proceeded to show me his personal SUV which had LTX tires on it. Think I'm sold when the time comes.
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