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Old 02-07-2011, 07:06 PM
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ML550 vs. Overland V8

Just for fun I went on the MB website to "build" a MB ML550 with the same options/config that my Overland, V8, BBP, 730N has. I did it as close as I could get. There were a couple of small things the MB had but some things that it did not (QL for example).

MB - $71,695
GC - $44,990

And they were developed together!
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:14 PM
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

Isn't it actually the NEXT ML that shares a platform with the JGC?

It's a huge price difference isn't it! here in Australia, it's closer to $80,000 difference! I do think all ML550's get air supsended here though.
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

Wow thats a significant difference. And even after all said and dont I still think I like the look of the Jeep better. Its a win win :-)

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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

I heard this same thing from my neighbor when I bough my E550...you coulda bought a Ford Taurus sho for much less.

It is indeed the next generation ML that will have platform similarities to the Jeep. The current ML is getting a bit old so I don't really think its a fair comparison until the new one comes out. Obviously the Merc will lose on price but if it can offer a better interior and a better engine it might still be compelling. I've never been a big fan of the ML however, its always been bland and soft.
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

Huge premium only to impress your neighbors a little more.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:08 PM
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

when I get my WK2 I'm going to place Mercedes and AMG badges on it.
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

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Huge premium only to impress your neighbors a little more.
It's not just about "features". There are some tangible and intangible differences when you get into higher-end vehicles. I have owned my share of bottom-feeders, some middle-road, and a couple higher-end vehicles. The nicer ones were my favorites, especially the German ones. But were they worth the price, hard to say, it depends on perspective.

The drive quality, fit and finish, dealership service experience, little things you find they think of to make the overall experience better.

So, an E-Class is not the same as a Ford Taurus, but there is a law of diminishing returns. Are those nicer features worth the extra $20k+. For a lot of people it isn't, and I don't blame them.

There are also a fair number of people with the disposable income required to the point that $20k doesn't mean much and they'd much rather drive a Benz than a Ford...

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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

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So, an E-Class is not the same as a Ford Taurus, but there is a law of diminishing returns. Are those nicer features worth the extra $20k+. For a lot of people it isn't, and I don't blame them.


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Short of the AMG line, the benz group quality and reliability has suffered greatly in the last 5 - 10 years. My CLS was a disaster, and looking at the forums I was not alone nor was the CLS a red headed step child. Their entire lineup has been plagued with electrical gremlins, except their gremlins cost thousands of dollars to fix, weeks for parts to be in transit, and often were never resolved.

Of my last three vehicles, our navigator went in for service 2x in 50k miles, our lexus sc430 went in 0 times in 4 years 60k miles, and our cls went in a total of 8 times in 1.5 years 18k miles. Service appointments were typically 3-5 days out because of backlogs.
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

^^^^ Definately one of the biggest automotive stuff-ups ever was Mercedes' pulling the quality out of their lineup from the late 90's until recently in search of the mighty profit margin.

No longer are Merc regarded as being bank-like in their quality, nor bankable on resale.

They promise us they have responded to these dark days and that the next generations will be once again, good vehicles.

One can only hope, as the last late model Merc I pulled apart (a C55 AMG to put a cage in), was honestly so bad that if looking at the wiring, you could have mistaken it for a mid 70's Plymouth!
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Re: ML550 vs. Overland V8

Don't get me started on resale... 88k to 25k in 5 years, many AMG models 100k+ to 35k in the same time period.
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The drive quality, fit and finish, dealership service experience, little things you find they think of to make the overall experience better.
Benz dealers are usually excellent, Lexus even better, arguably. Even Buick dealers rank high in polls. But Jeep dealers with some notable exceptions tend to bring up the rear, and hereabouts the best within reasonable driving distance was closed down as part of the restructuring.

While GM and Ford are now improving their dealer networks, Fiat has continued to let Chrysler-line dealers atrophy.

Bottom line, most folks buy Jeeps because they are Jeeps and are affordable, not because of dealer/service quality.
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Short of the AMG line, the benz group quality and reliability has suffered greatly in the last 5 - 10 years. My CLS was a disaster, and looking at the forums I was not alone nor was the CLS a red headed step child. Their entire lineup has been plagued with electrical gremlins, except their gremlins cost thousands of dollars to fix, weeks for parts to be in transit, and often were never resolved.

Of my last three vehicles, our navigator went in for service 2x in 50k miles, our lexus sc430 went in 0 times in 4 years 60k miles, and our cls went in a total of 8 times in 1.5 years 18k miles. Service appointments were typically 3-5 days out because of backlogs.


Much like Toyota, Mercedes built a great reputation a long time ago but has been milking it for the last 10 years or so.
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