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Re: My first 1000

Trying to get a replacement vehicle because your overheated would be like trying to squeeze water out of a rock. Here in the U.S., the best bet would be the lemon law. But of course the lemon law doesn't apply just for overheating an engine alone....it's not that simple.

FWIW, I've been an ASE certified Master Tech for more than 15 years now. I've seen a few vehicles go through the lemon law process and it's much more involved than most people think. If there's one piece of advice I can give anyone on the lemon law, it is this: Keep the most detailed and accurate records possible, document EVERYTHING and save all of your service receipts.
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I can't believe you got a warning on the ticket. Wisconsin sucks, and all they want is the out of staters money. I don't go more than 5 over in Wisconsin.
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To me the real question would be what else was damaged by running without coolant? I'd be really, REALLY upset that it happened.
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I can't believe you got a warning on the ticket. Wisconsin sucks, and all they want is the out of staters money. I don't go more than 5 over in Wisconsin.
I know! on Sunday I must have seen 8 state and sheriff between Neenah and the state line. I swear they those guys get a h#*d on pulling people over. I told him I just got this vehicle and was just driving along, He asked if the speedometer worked? I should have said "possible not" but that would have been a ticket for sure. He also asked me if speed limits were optional in Michigan...he was such a smart ass and all i could do was say yes sir and no sir ...grrrrrrrrrrr
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Re: My first 1000

OP: Sorry about the coolant issue, but I think you'll be fine; just keep an eye on your head gaskets and inspect your oil for signs of coolant. Modern engines are designed to run very hot in order to generate good power with better economy and fewer emissions, so you have that on your side.

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...He asked if the speedometer worked? I should have said "possible not" but that would have been a ticket for sure....
LOL. Several years ago I was stopped by a Racine or Kenosha County sheriff deputy (can't recall which) who had the same arrogant attitude who claimed i was doing "84 in a 65 zone". He also gave me flak for not having a front plate (only a rear plate issued in MI). He went on and on cussing at me and making outright threats to my well-being while I just sat there and smiled the whole time.

After a minute or two, he asked what I was smiling about, I pointed to my dash cam that records video, audio, and all vehicle data for every trip (a work reqmt). I truly was not speeding like he said (I was maybe 5 over tops) and when he found out about my dash cam and data logging system, he lost all color in his face, probably crapped himself and then sheepishly told me he'd let me go this time with a verbal and to have a nice day and move along. He knew very well I had all I needed to ensure he'd lose his job if I wanted.

I drive that MI/IN/IL/WI corridor around the lake a lot. The deputies in those WI counties seem to care more about speeding than more dangerous driving (swerving, texting, tailgating), IMHO.
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OP: Sorry about the coolant issue, but I think you'll be fine; just keep an eye on your head gaskets and inspect your oil for signs of coolant. Modern engines are designed to run very hot in order to generate good power with better economy and fewer emissions, so you have that on your side.


LOL. Several years ago I was stopped by a Racine or Kenosha County sheriff deputy (can't recall which) who had the same arrogant attitude who claimed i was doing "84 in a 65 zone". He also gave me flak for not having a front plate (only a rear plate issued in MI). He went on and on cussing at me and making outright threats to my well-being while I just sat there and smiled the whole time.

After a minute or two, he asked what I was smiling about, I pointed to my dash cam that records video, audio, and all vehicle data for every trip (a work reqmt). I truly was not speeding like he said (I was maybe 5 over tops) and when he found out about my dash cam and data logging system, he lost all color in his face, probably crapped himself and then sheepishly told me he'd let me go this time with a verbal and to have a nice day and move along. He knew very well I had all I needed to ensure he'd lose his job if I wanted.

I drive that MI/IN/IL/WI corridor around the lake a lot. The deputies in those WI counties seem to care more about speeding than more dangerous driving (swerving, texting, tailgating), IMHO.
Wanna know what is really crazy, it was indeed in Racine were I got pulled over. That is soooo funny.

UPDATE: Defective clamp on heater core is what I was told. They will be delivering it back to me tomorrow after running boards are installed. The service manager is confident no damage was done and when asked if he would put that in writing he didnt hesitate to say yes. So at this time what else could be said. I may be the minority here but I do feel in my heart that its going to be fine. Ive been working on engines for a long and I feel that it was shut down before anything could have happened.
Thanks a bunch for all of the input and I will post if I was wrong
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Wanna know what is really crazy, it was indeed in Racine were I got pulled over. That is soooo funny.

UPDATE: Defective clamp on heater core is what I was told. They will be delivering it back to me tomorrow after running boards are installed. The service manager is confident no damage was done and when asked if he would put that in writing he didnt hesitate to say yes. So at this time what else could be said. I may be the minority here but I do feel in my heart that its going to be fine. Ive been working on engines for a long and I feel that it was shut down before anything could have happened.
Thanks a bunch for all of the input and I will post if I was wrong
Take heart in this. If the motor had been destroyed by overheating, it would've been a warranty issue, costing the company more than their profit margin to repair.

With all the sensors and computer management, you can be damn sure the engine is designed to shut down long before heat can reach a damaging level. This isn't done for your benefit, but to protect the company from financial losses. The same can be said for RPM limiters.

If 10,000 vehicles hit the road with defective $1 clamps resulting in overheating and engine replacements it would be a disaster.

I have no doubt there's a line of code in the engine management system that will shut down the engine, even without enough coolant to immerse the sensor, before damage is a possibilty. Once we get our hands on the tech manuals for the WK2, it can probobly be verified in the operating block diagrams.
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Try pushing Chrysler for extended warranty. Another member here succeeded but he already had powertrain warranty - Chrysler upgraded it to Lifetime for free.
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Try pushing Chrysler for extended warranty. Another member here succeeded but he already had powertrain warranty - Chrysler upgraded it to Lifetime for free.
That is a really good idea, THANKS!!
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[FONT=Cambria][SIZE=3]If I were to reorder I would get the black. Not because it doesn’t look good but because it does, but I can see were the seats will get noticeable dirty quicker and we have not been it with anything other than clean clothes every time.
I have a 2003 Liberty which has leather seats that are pretty much the same shade of light leather that they're putting into these WK2s. I've never had any problems with them getting dirty. Sure, I have to clean them every once in a while, but they stay cleaner than, say, the interior door handles which gradually turn gray from my grubby hands. I bet you'll be fine.


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I noticed the cooling fans just screaming today and then all of a sudden the temp warning light came on, I checked the temp to find it was at 258 and dropping. Fortunately we were a block away home so I pulled it in the garage and opened the hood to find no coolant.
I had a very similar thing happen two years ago on my Liberty. I was pulling into the garage and immediately noticed steam wafting up. I got out and noticed coolant dripping pretty bad from underneath the vehicle. Turned out, I had no coolant left; I must have just gotten home after the last of it was gone. I hadn't noticed the warning light, if it even came on. I put water into the radiator to see where the leak was from and it turned out the bearing on the water pump had gone, causing the coolant to leak from the axle that the belt pulley spins on. The engine compartment was a complete mess, btw, since as the coolant leaked out, it would hit the spinning pulley and belt which threw the coolant all over the engine compartment. Required quite a bit of engine cleanup, new belts which were permeated, and new hood liner (that thick felt thing under the hood). No long term damage. It currently has close to 120K miles and still going strong.

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I must be different to some of you guys?
I find that type of mechanical failure (the leaking coolant and subsequent overheat) totally inexcusable in ANY vehicle in 2010,
Statistically, it's gonna happen. If a factory is producing tens of thousands of vehicles, some of them, even if it's 0.0001%, are going to have defects like like this that end up in somebody's hands. With hundreds of parts suppliers, there's too many factors in play besides just assembly quality at the plant.

The money put into building and maintaining airplanes could be 99% safety related, and some would *still* crash.
Statistics.
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Final update:
The dealership delivered my Overland back today. Cleaned, full tank of gas and new set of running boards installed. Of course I paid for the running boards but the full tank of gas was a very pleasant and unexpected surprise. Garage floor is dry so my hopes are all is good. Story is that the factory used a light duty clamp were a HD clamp was suppose to be used. If this is in fact true they can expect more to come back with this problem Im sure.
Another niice surprise was a rep from Chrysler called and on top of giving me a free 3 year all inclusive extended warrenty, they are also going to pay my first bank payment. Am I satisfied, absolutely as long as I dont have anymore troubles.
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