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Re: My Jeep almost killed me today?

IIRC, driver input cancels the automatic braking. So just pressing a bit more on the gas should instantly cancel the braking. Not sure if steering input cancels the braking.

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Re: My Jeep almost killed me today?

When I first got my jeep the FCW scared the sh*t out of me. I couldnt figure out what was beeping or why. Hard to believe when the entire screen yells BRAKE!

Since then ive learned to understand how it works and what sets it off. Its probably made me a bit of a better driver. I tend to slow down more for cars taking right turns from the lane rather than keeping pace and hoping they get out of the way. I leave mine activated. The way I see it, those few false alarms and scares are worth it if the system saves me from 1 collision
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IIRC, driver input cancels the automatic braking. So just pressing a bit more on the gas should instantly cancel the braking.
Haha, not on a 2014. Have to fight through it for a second or two.

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I leave mine activated.
So do I, albeit on "near". It seriously cuts down on the false alarms compared to "far".
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Long story short was driving with the family, and a car was turning right about 150 feet ahead of me and it activated my collision warning. Well the thing is the car was out of the road way, and I was still accelerating.

I drive with my hand on the gear shift knob, as I have for the past 15 years of driving a stick. It wasn't the near collision that almost killed me, it was the fact that it stood on the brakes at such a level of aggressiveness that it literally threw my body and arm forward enough that it pushed itself in to neutral.

The car behind me almost hit me at 55 mph. I'm not mad at the car, but it appears that I won't be resting my hand on the shift knob anymore.


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That happened to me and now it is turned off for good. I just hate that I paid for this stupid "safety feature". My life and driving record for last 20 years have been perfect without it. It should be required for the teenagers and elderly.
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Re: My Jeep almost killed me today?

Same here on the getting the crap scared out of me! This system is not perfect. Is there a way to cancel only the braking part, so that the noise only warns of impending danger?
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Is there a way to cancel only the braking part, so that the noise only warns of impending danger?
There certainly is - and that's how I'm using it.

It is where all the other settings are.
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Re: My Jeep almost killed me today?

Close call, glad you didn't stack it.

But you shouldn't rest your hand on the gear shift when driving stick or auto. With stick, you can wear out syncro rings and with auto...you can do what you did.

Bad form basically.
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Re: My Jeep almost killed me today?

An Accident could also cause her to hit the dash or windshield. I would recommend always using a seatbelt. No one goes anywhere in my vehicle without a seatbelt on.
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IIRC, driver input cancels the automatic braking. So just pressing a bit more on the gas should instantly cancel the braking. Not sure if steering input cancels the braking.

Not completely true. I tried accelerating through it the other day when I was aware of the situation and it still press the brakes even after I hit the gas.

I think it's based driver input from either pedal. If you do nothing it does nothing. If you tap either pedal it thinks you are making an effort to stop. Even if you hit the gas it reacts as if you hit the wrong pedal in error. That's my multiple experiences.


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Not too many people die in a rear end hit when there is nothing in front of them. Soft tissue and whiplash, maybe, if seat and shoulder belts aren't adjusted properly.


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You are correct. The scenario I was in today was a one where if I got hit in the rear I could have been pushed into oncoming traffic.

3 years ago my wife was sitting at a red light about 6 cars deep. Some dude wasn't paying attention and hit her at about 35 mph while sitting still. The explorer was 2 months old and had 940 miles on it .

$13,000 worth in damage and my wife had a slap year in her shoulder which till the days leaves her in pain.

Here is a photo. The damage was underneath. Just to replace the tire well cost $3200 because cut weld and paint. $1000 in labor for that alone lol

This photo was the only one I could find. Though it was much worse from straight on. Explorer held up good. My 2 month old son was in the back seat.

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Long story short was driving with the family, and a car was turning right about 150 feet ahead of me and it activated my collision warning. Well the thing is the car was out of the road way, and I was still accelerating.

I drive with my hand on the gear shift knob, as I have for the past 15 years of driving a stick. It wasn't the near collision that almost killed me, it was the fact that it stood on the brakes at such a level of aggressiveness that it literally threw my body and arm forward enough that it pushed itself in to neutral.

The car behind me almost hit me at 55 mph. I'm not mad at the car, but it appears that I won't be resting my hand on the shift knob anymore.


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The car did what it was supposed to do. It worked. And next time some asshole really comes on the road in front of you without looking for incoming traffic, you'll be glad that FCW shaved 1.5 seconds of your reaction time. Front or side collisions is what mostly kills people not the ones from the rear. Sure you might get a stiff neck, something broken, but odds are you will live to function normally (maybe not mentally) some time after the accident. I highly suggest you leave it alone, enabled.

If anything, it seems like your sensor might be misaligned.

The FCW, in my experience, has at least 3 modes:
1) It warns you and if somehow you scrub enough speed (by lifting the accelerator pedal or by braking) that is all it does
2) It warns you and if you ignore its 3rd or 4th warning it will tap the brakes
3) It warns and brakes violently at the same time.

Also, the hand on the stick is bad behavior. On the auto tranny is bad behavior, because at least with the 14-15 designs, you can accidentally put it in neutral, creating a greater hazard for you. On the manual tranny, it will prematurely wear out the throw-out bearing.
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FYI--for all the comments questioning the ability of the shifter to move from Drive to Neutral....almost EVERY vehicle ever made with an automatic transmission has a shifter that can be moved from Drive to Neutral WITHOUT pushing any buttons or hitting the brake. It is, and always has been the standard design of an auto shifter.

You may now continue with the FCW discussion...
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