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My Trailhawk Mods...

A few before and after pics:

First thing I did to the "Hawk" was get a cargo area mat and tidy up the four corners. Also started looking for an extra set of wheels. Picked up these stockers (18x8) two weeks ago, paid two and quarter for all four. Pulled the tires off and then off they went to get coated. Turn around was only a week. The color is Black Satin. Thought about going gloss black but the Hawk is going to be my "expedition vehicle". The center caps were the chromed plastic, hit them with some 400 and then four coats of Krylon black.

Next, off to get tires...
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

Since it was going to be a week or more for the wheels I started looking at tires. Not the biggest selection M/T tires for 18" rims. Had experience with the Goodyear DuraTrac's before, ran 33's on a '00 TJ and liked them. Far better than an AT tire when offroad and they have very good street manners too.

Off with the street wheels and tires...
And baby has new shoes!!!
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

While I was waiting for the wheels to get done and the tires to come in started on another project.

Care to guess what they're going to be used for?

(Hint, going on the front and won't require any panels to be removed or holes drilled to attach them. Oh, size is approximately 3"x6".)
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

you have any pics of the front? Looks like you threw some auxiliary lights on there but not sure.

Oh, and nice looking rig

Grill inserts?
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

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And baby has new shoes!!!
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

Chunderboy... well I guess you could call them "grill inserts" and good catch on the "auxiliary lights".

Since I wanted to run some additional lights (pencil beams) I started looking for ways to mount them. The top part of the plastic bumper was my original thought, but what a hassle to get in/behind the "bumper". Then there would be the issue of reinforcing the "bumper" so it wouldn't vibrate and crack when subjected to normal street and offroad conditions.

Then took a closer look at the grill, hmmmm this might work. Mocked up some cardboard templates and had some 1/8" (11 gauge) plate steel. Looked closer for what was behind the grill and found that on the drivers side there is what appears to be an ambient air temp probe. Thought the flat plate could possibly restrict air flow too much, so picked up some perforated plate and cut out the sections.

Then welded some threaded (1/4 -20) couplings to the pieces that were going to be on the inside of the grill. For the outside (front of grill) welded the light mounting brackets to the bottom so the light would be located just above the "bumper". Then used two cap head bolts to sandwich the the grill.

The following pics pretty much show the rest of the install for these mock-up pieces. I think I'm going to make the final pieces more of an hour glass shape.

Still have to pull some wire into the cabin for the switch. Anybody know of the best way to "get in" from the engine side? Probably won't tap into the "canbus" system but just come off the battery posts under the hood.

Lights are Hella 500 Black Magic.
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What size duratracs did you get?
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

XJ that turned out really nice, nice fab work on the lights. When you had the wheels powder coated do they just do the outward facing surfaces? Is the cost reasonable? Dave
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No rubbing? And how's the ride for the E rated tires?
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

Dave... thanks, the light brackets are my test pieces and I think I will make another set with a few changes. (Did you have a chance to check out that other set of wheels?)

As for the powder coating, yes they sprayed the complete back side of the wheels, unlike the factory finish. Cost, I think was about average at $105 each. That included stripping, cleaning, and coating. A couple of other places wanted $300 - $325 just for coating and I had to bring in "clean" wheels.

Kelsey73 - No, no rubbing in Sport, Park, or Auto modes with four people in the Jeep when driven on the street. Haven't had a chance to flex it offroad in setting 1 and 2 yet.

I suspect that the 275/65/18 tire is going to be the largest tire that will fit under the fender and still be able to offroad it. On the front, the inside sidewall is within a 1/2" of touching the "knuckle" just below the upper control arm. See #1 in diagram below. When offroad, with the suspension flexed and the tire stacked up against a rock (compressed) there should be no deflection into the knuckle.

Since the DuraTracs are just over 1-1/2" taller than the stock Silent Armor I do notice the extra 3/4" in height when getting in the vehicle. As for ride, it's still very nice with the Q/L suspension. They're just a little bit stiffer but I'm running 41 lbs in them right now. Stock tires were at 35.

I've run several different M/T tires on my XJ's and TJ like the BFG KM M/T's, Kumho's, Pro Comp, Goodyear MT-R's, etc. The DuraTrac's do have just a little "sing" to them, which I don't mind, but nothing like the "drrrrrrrr" you get from the other M/T's.
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Re: My Trailhawk Mods...

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Dave... thanks, the light brackets are my test pieces and I think I will make another set with a few changes. (Did you have a chance to check out that other set of wheels?)

As for the powder coating, yes they sprayed the complete back side of the wheels, unlike the factory finish. Cost, I think was about average at $105 each. That included stripping, cleaning, and coating. A couple of other places wanted $300 - $325 just for coating and I had to bring in "clean" wheels.

Kelsey73 - No, no rubbing in Sport, Park, or Auto modes with four people in the Jeep when driven on the street. Haven't had a chance to flex it offroad in setting 1 and 2 yet.

I suspect that the 275/65/18 tire is going to be the largest tire that will fit under the fender and still be able to offroad it. On the front, the inside sidewall is within a 1/2" of touching the "knuckle" just below the upper control arm. See #1 in diagram below. When offroad, with the suspension flexed and the tire stacked up against a rock (compressed) there should be no deflection into the knuckle.

Since the DuraTracs are just over 1-1/2" taller than the stock Silent Armor I do notice the extra 3/4" in height when getting in the vehicle. As for ride, it's still very nice with the Q/L suspension. They're just a little bit stiffer but I'm running 41 lbs in them right now. Stock tires were at 35.

I've run several different M/T tires on my XJ's and TJ like the BFG KM M/T's, Kumho's, Pro Comp, Goodyear MT-R's, etc. The DuraTrac's do have just a little "sing" to them, which I don't mind, but nothing like the "drrrrrrrr" you get from the other M/T's.
XJ: No, back to wheel hunting. Wow the powder coating you had done was more than reasonable and what a great job. I will have to ask at our local place and see what they would charge in case I locate some wheels, bet it is more than $105 though. Dave
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