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My V6 is enough power for me. History proves it....

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Boy do we get spoiled! It is fun to look back at the horsepower ratings of the previous JGC generations. Our 2014+ V6 power is increased by some 35% more than our V6 from 2010 (WK). Not to even mention nearly 50% horsepower increase from the original 4.0L (ZJ). :thumbsup:

Some charts from Wiki to showcase the HP increase:

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#2 ·
Boy do we get spoiled! It is fun to look back at the horsepower ratings of the previous JGC generations. Our 2014+ V6 power is increased by some 35% more than our V6 from 2010 (WK). Not to even mention nearly 50% horsepower increase from the original 4.0L V6 (ZJ). :thumbsup:
And twice as many gears as a ZJ to deliver it.

I was plenty happy with my two 4.0L I6's (not V6's) 2002 GC and 1994 GC.

Fantastic motor and I towed 4500lbs with it. Went 217K and it only burned a quart every 5000 miles before I sold it.
 
#8 · (Edited)
So this thread is to make specific engine owners feel good about their decision?!? :confused:

I understand if you some folks feel the need to justify or validate your purchase decision (v6, V8, or Diesel). Jeep offers different engine for different needs and wants.

Buy whichever you want, can afford, and feel good about. :thumbsup:
 
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So this thread is to make specific engine owners feel good about their decision?!? :confused:

Buy whichever you want, can afford, and feel good about. :thumbsup:
Maybe I should have titled the thread differently. To me it shows the engineering and effectiveness of gaining in horsepower/torque over the years. I do agree a person must weight their own needs for engine, mine needs justified the V6.
 
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I also found this interesting...very nice that engine designs have been able to balance increased power, etc., along with better fuel economy at the same time. And the mention of the JGC being heavier while still doing well with these new engines is also a positive thing.
 
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I'd guess you ain't seen nothing yet. Superhigh compression with direct high pressure injection and controlled burn can do wonders for aging designs and make them very competitive with diesel other than the fuel-energy density advantage.
Dunno where some of that hardware could fit on the hemi with its twin spark plugs [from at least back in the 30's where this was a Nash feature].

Then, we turbo/blow them...
 
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Not impressed by the results of the thread,

please provide power to weight ratio's

that's the real measure of progress.

granted weight=safety improvements but meh.


Ill gladly take my current 98 cherokee with 4.0L that has EXCELLENT visibility vs. the GC terrible visibility and selectable 2wd to 4wd drive capability.

newer isnt always better.
 
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Not impressed by the results of the thread,

please provide power to weight ratio's

that's the real measure of progress.

granted weight=safety improvements but meh.


Ill gladly take my current 98 cherokee with 4.0L that has EXCELLENT visibility vs. the GC terrible visibility and selectable 2wd to 4wd drive capability.

newer isnt always better.
Strange.

My old 2012 along with my new 2015 WK2s have Great visibility. :confused:

I've heard some folks HATE the sight lines on the WK2. One person at work had a WK2 as a company vehicle & changed it out for a Chevy Trailblazer because he felt the Jeep had to many blind spots & poor sight lines.

Strangely, I love the view from my WK2 and hated the Chevy Trailblazer sight lines. IMHO, that thing had horrible blind spots along with poor visibility.
 
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My WK2 is much faster (overall) than my previous '08 WK. I noticed most while merging on to the highway or when passing someone at speed. Its almost effortless now. I guess the 75hp increase had something to do with that. That increase was much needed for their V6 GC models.

Now if they could only get their transmission problems sorted out :sleepy:
 
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My WK2 is much faster (overall) than my previous '08 WK. I noticed most while merging on to the highway or when passing someone at speed. Its almost effortless now. I guess the 75hp increase had something to do with that. That increase was much needed for their V6 GC models.

Now if they could only get their transmission problems sorted out :sleepy:
What transmission problems? They have sorted it out. I've had 2 and they are both great. Luckily both were not early built in 2013.

They have the firmware working IMHO. And there were QC problems on early builds. And probably still some QC issues even on recent builds. But overall I think the issues are solved and it's just them staying on track to get QC up further. Because there still seems a few complaints on even late builds.

I think HARD shifting was never firmware and a QC issue. Firmware is now fixed. The HARD shifting keeps getting mixed up with the firmware issues and takes a long time to resolve. I suspect all HARD shifting transmissions needs replacements. Too hard to fix in the shop (valve bodies etc.) And possible damage done to these transmissions.

I always wonder too if the early bad firmware damaged some transmissions.


Paranoid to upgrade my Limited to Overland because it was running fantastic. But so far so good. 1200 miles already.
 
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Boy do we get spoiled! It is fun to look back at the horsepower ratings of the previous JGC generations. Our 2014+ V6 power is increased by some 35% more than our V6 from 2010 (WK). Not to even mention nearly 50% horsepower increase from the original 4.0L (ZJ). :thumbsup:

Some charts from Wiki to showcase the HP increase:

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This comparison is worthless without mentioning weight increase. If there was no power increase this car wouldn't pull its own weight.

I used to own '98 ZJ with 5.2L V8 and is was faster than my '11 WK2 with V6. It was much lighter, no electronic throttle control, lower gearing at 1-st gear and saving gas was not a design priority in '93 (which is when that style ZJ was released).
 
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