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Old 08-13-2011, 02:40 PM
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Valid comments but sounds like you need to play around with some of the controls/EVIC a bit more.

- Yes, the there is dimmer control for the nav screen, etc.

Not on mine, it only dims the gauges. Check again. The center stack and cup holder don't change.
- My sunroof doesn't cause buffeting although I probably haven't driven above 50 MPH with it open...I think like most vehicles cracking a rear window just a tad will help.
Yeah, I know, but on some other makes I haven't had too. I guess the angle of the roof makes a difference.

- I wish there were more customizable options like Tom Tom / Garmin too. But most if not all car makers don't have it.
- I understand there were other FOB buttons...at lease one...I think it was for the flipper glass but for some reason it caused confusion and was eliminated...dunno for sure.
Ok, this makes sense I guess.
- The auto wipers in my WK was far superior to the WK2.....far superior. Maybe there will be a program change in the future. If the auto wipers worked like my WK, they would be perfect.
- The ACC for cruise control is great....
- The green ambient lighting...not the biggest fan of it...would prefer blue too or adjustable color. The bright green headlights on light in the console appears at first to be a warning light...I had to look it up to make sure there wasn't a problem....it needs to be toned down to be an "indicator light" instead of appearing to be a "warning light". Minor adjustments though.

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Agreed on the lighting notifications. It's strange, one of the most annoying things on the Mercedes Bennz ML was the fact that the headlight dial had no light indicators on it. So when you needed to adjust it, which would be when it's dark, you couldn't see anything, and on this one they over do it with a lit dial and indicators on the dash as well! Strange.
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on this one they over do it with a lit dial and indicators on the dash as well! Strange.
When the dial is set to Auto mode, the dash indicators tell you whether the headlights are actually on.
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I love the fact that the remote control buttons for our front gate and the garage are on the overhead instead of on the rear view mirror. MB, Lexus, BMW, and Ford all have them on the rearview mirror. Dang mirror always moving around never where you want it because you keep bumping it when you hit the buttons. Annoying design!
I think I mentioned this in the other forums, but the location of the buttons for the homelink varies by model. Every Lexus I've ever had has them on the overhead console...
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I think I am going to need that firmware update or reflash described in the TSB. I've noticed a few flatspots in the rev band developing when accelerating. It almost feels like small stumbles or a fuel starvation. Very subtle, but needs to be addressed.
I also have the occasional ipod interface connection/recognition issue in another TSB. I don't mind the issue as much as I mind that it won't charge the ipod then and I end up with a completely drained ipod battery. So that needs to get fixed.
And I've noticed a small, and it is very slight, but definately there, a tug in the seat that feels like some part of the drivetrain is engaging right after take off. It's right at 3-5 mph. I'll have them take a look at that as well.

Looking over the hood from the interior makes me feel like I'm driving a Transformer. But I still like it and wouldn't really change it.
The Goodyear 20" tires remain horrible. I wish I could trade those in. I noticed though that the spare is still the 18" version and is a Kuhomo.

I love the fact that this is my very first "family" vehicle offered with no ashtrays and ciggerette lighter.

There should be an easy to reach overhead cargo light that can be manually turned on and off for extended use. The ones on the inside liftgate can be shadowed out by you're own body, and don't really provide enough light there anyway.

The range of the remote start should be much further away. I would say atleast 1/4 mile range, but I've seen up to 1.5 miles away.

There should be a security "check status" on the key fob. They could make one of those useless buttons we have that when pressed makes the LED flash red for unlocked and green for locked and in park, engine off. That is satelite linked so it works from wherever, or atleast the 1/4 mile range the remote start should work away from.
I've discovered a split screen mode on the 730 that will show the nav map on the right half, and your music selection and status on the left half. That's pretty nice.

I've noticed this is becoming more and more of an issue on alot of different mfgr's and models. BUt the Jeep is just as bad. If I put the seat in the position I want, and then put the steering wheel where I think it's comfortable, the top of the steering wheel just about blocks the entire dash! You almost have to "adjust" to be able to read the dash and you feel like your reaching up to the steering wheel no matter what, because if you raise the seat then your changing the angle again and your right back where you started. Stupid. Why can't they make the gauge panel move with the tilt? Inifinity has it, so it's possible.

And they should make the tilt feature separate from the up and down feature and in and out. Then you can find those "balance points" for driving. Remember the old chevy's had the best tilt steering.

I like the door window sill height ratio of the GC also. When the window is down you can hang your elbow out comfortably. Some SUV's and crossovers have really high window lines that make this impossible.

It does really need a change compartment. Parking meters and such still abound, you always need to have a couple dollars in change just in case. I have this little leather pouch thing, but theres all this unused space on the left side dash under the light controls. Just sayin.

It's a very stable truck. It drives great in heavy cross winds and during rainstorms. Here in Florida we can get rain heavy enough to easily overwhelm the high speed setting of just about any vehicle, and the Jeep's windshield wiper speed is on par with everyone else's. The rear windshield wiper is only occassionally useful, and most of the time ignored as all the other models. I'm waiting for the same moisture sensing system on the rear window so you can just set both to the auto mode and be done with it.

Something else I've noticed is different attribute combinations in different vehicles can effect my perception of speed. For example in the IS 350, that car is sneaky fast. It's so smooth, the size and feel of the car makes it so you feel like your doing 55 or 60 mph, but when you look down your actually zinging along at 75 or 80. So I always have to restrain myself in that car. I feel like I'm always pulling myself back and having to slow down. The Mercedes ML was pretty good at feeling the right speed limit. So when I'm driving around town and jumping on the highway and back to town again, just my visual judgement is in pretty good tune with the actual speed of the vehicle. I think the ride height, size, torque, weight, suspension, and steering feel all play a role in achieving this. And as this is about perception, I'm sure it's different for alot of people, but I have noticed that when I think I'm doing 45 mph, I look down and I'm usually right on, and 35 feels like it's 35. I'm just saying I have come to appreciate this, it makes driving it easier in my daily life.
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Hi Bmwister,

Just curious here... you didn't mention Laredo.
All the WK2 chassis are the same sans drivetrain; I was referring to those specific luxury trim options OF the WK2 chassis in my comparison.
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You are mistaken on the 2010 Grand Cherokee, it has been a Unibody design since it came out in the early 90's, it did have a live axle in the back but ind. suspension up front on the WK1 and straight axles front and rear on the previous generations. As for the new platform it is an all new design that was co-developed with Mercedes for the Jeep and ML.
Thats correct GC has always been a unibody (uniframe) since it was created in 1993.
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A loaded Explorer Limited is like $55k....for an Explorer?!? I mean, yeah its nice...but you're well into a BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, etc vehicle for that money...and not just an entry level one either. They don't want to negotiate on those Explorers either.
What the H***? Where do you see an explorer for $55K?? A fully loading Limited is only $47K and thats with the $2,000 Invision TV accessory.
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