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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

Thanks for the feedback, great stuff.

2 follow up questions:

1. Was not going to get 4x4, in CA, not needed for the seasons, only if you seek it out...best to get it anyway? What about the additional cost to maintain 4x4 and insurance costs
2. Does everyone go through there local dealer to build and buy or is there a less expensive route, perhaps straight through headquarters?

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Old 02-05-2015, 01:37 PM
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

Are you going to be driving anywhere with inclement weather? I would get the 4x4 for traction when towing, and for the air suspension which will benefit you when towing.

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Old 02-05-2015, 02:03 PM
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

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Thanks for the feedback, great stuff.

2 follow up questions:

1. Was not going to get 4x4, in CA, not needed for the seasons, only if you seek it out...best to get it anyway? What about the additional cost to maintain 4x4 and insurance costs
2. Does everyone go through there local dealer to build and buy or is there a less expensive route, perhaps straight through headquarters?

Thanks
I'll let others continue to guide on which motor/drive to get.

The LA area is pretty competitive and seems to be offering no worse than about 3% below invoice plus the $500 rebate. If encourage you to work with a dealer you like (if you have one). Otherwise, a good start is with the Internet sales team. Go to Truecar dot com and configure yours and then submit your info and you will get calls within a minute or two or three, really! The folks calling you back will be the internet team and that is where the lowest prices can be had locally. Looks like your starting point for a base '15 Limited V6 4x2 is $34.7k (rebate in) on an MSRP of $37.9k.

You can also go here to config your own and get the option invoice costs (truecar gives it too):

Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 - 2015 Grand Cherokee pricing and options

good luck!
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:33 AM
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Decided on a limited JGC 2015

Question is which motor, v6, ecodiesel, or v8

Usage of the jeep:
1. Commuting 60 miles per day 5 days a week
2. Possibly 7 weekend trips this spring of 360 miles round trip ( could take our Honda accord depending on gas millage between the two cars)
3. 3-4 trips per year pulling a pop up tent trailer (approx 3400 pds)
4. Eventually graduating (a couple of years or so)to a travel trailer with max gvwr of 6000 pds

Any input would be appreciated.

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Thanks for the feedback, great stuff.

2 follow up questions:

1. Was not going to get 4x4, in CA, not needed for the seasons, only if you seek it out...best to get it anyway? What about the additional cost to maintain 4x4 and insurance costs
2. Does everyone go through there local dealer to build and buy or is there a less expensive route, perhaps straight through headquarters?

Thanks
I am not going to match South Dakota's excellent review.

Think about where you live: California. You guys will NEVER have cheap gas prices just like us in Chicago, no matter how cheap the oil barrel. The V8 requires more expensive fuel, the diesel costs here as much as premium (93). The V6 diesel appears to be only marginally more fuel efficient than the V6 but with the higher acquisition cost, it will be years before you see any cost benefits, unless you have some other compelling reason to get the Diesel or V8 (e.g. ex-racer, towing big-heavy trailers over mountain ridges and living at high altitude). And oil prices will eventually settle upward.


Think about you currently have and what gets your job done: a Honda Accord. Probably a V6 (278 hp/252 lb-ft) since you are towing. I do not have the exact numbers but I am pretty sure that the V6 Jeep will double your towing capacity over the Honda all along being slightly more powerful. And the V6 Jeep will not hurt your wallet much compared to the Accord.

You want to graduate in a couple of years to a bigger trailer. But you don't have it now, you've made no exact plans (i.e. this summer you want go by car to Australia and you need the bigger trailer for driving across the Pacific :-) ) when you are going to get it and even the V6 would tow that. And on those occasions, the V6 will be adequate for your enhanced towing needs. Unless of course you tow every week-end, in which case you might want a pickup truck.

I believe you are misguided by not getting the 4x4. Think travels, inclement weather, mountains, earthquakes, fires - whatever you guys have in Cali. You should get the 4x4 to aid in towing, to aid in your travels, to retain resale value.

Look up the forum there are still several Group Buys and other discounts by various dealerships. Looks like you are not pressed for time. You could order it if you don't find what you want already on a dealer's lot. But if you want a nice car with all the available toys on a budget, you should think of adding options to a Limited. You can essentially make a Limited by adding options into an Overland minus the all important leather dashboard, white stitching on the leather, the seat logo and the irreplaceable puddle lights.

So my overall advice: V6 Limited 4x4 to which you add the options you need or want.
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The V6 in this thing is more than adequate. I've got a heavy foot too. It seems to be the most reliable option of the three, but that's opinion based. I have a bad feeling about Jeep diesels from passed experience.
Depends on that commute.
If at higher speeds, say above 45-50 most of the way, the Hemi isn't that bad, and you get a very very nice truck.

If the commute is surface roads with a lot of stop and go, the V6 is arguably the better idea if low commute cost is your preference.

I've driven rental V6's and they aren't too shabby, flatland performance is nice, mountain performance doesn't suck, and they can tow if you need it. They are by no means in the same class as the Hemi, but even the Hemi is not a supercar.

Diesel costs vs the midgrade for the Hemi can kill that quickly even with the higher mileage available... you'd want to be towing a lot to go with the extra PITA of the diesel.
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

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Thanks for the feedback, great stuff.

2 follow up questions:

1. Was not going to get 4x4, in CA, not needed for the seasons, only if you seek it out...best to get it anyway? What about the additional cost to maintain 4x4 and insurance costs

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Without a doubt, get the 4x4. Much better for towing, inclement weather, and Cali's natural geography (sandy beaches to snowy mountain peaks) and disasters.
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The commuting miles (60 per day) are all highway.

Honda does not tow, I actually tow with a GMC yukon.

Seems to me that although there is a small difference in mpg between the v6 and v8, if towing then it becomes a choice between v8 and diesel. Here there is a bigger difference in mpg. We will be taking trips without towing, which would mean highway miles and therefore 22 mpg vs 30 mpg could start to add up.

I just confirmed that from an insurance costs, 4x4 vs 4x2 for my insurance company is not going to be a deal breaker.

Now I wonder, is it more costly to maintain/repair on a 4x4 vs a 4x2, or is it not worth worrying about?
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Yes, never was an option (14/15) on any Limited which OP has decided on. Only avail on Overland and Summit with V8 or Diesel.
A little confused: On a 4x2 none of this applies, correct? Is there any air auto adjust when hooking on a trailer?

On a 4x4, the Limited comes with the QuadraTrac II, but there is an option for QuadraDrive II. QuadraLift is only available with QuadraDrive II..is this correct? Again, other than QuadraLift, is there any air auto adjust when hooking on a trailer if you do not have QuadraDrive II?

If I were to get 4x4, what must have option do I want for towing, not necessarily for off roading as I will not be dong that on purpose.

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You want Factory Tow option for towing regardless if you go 4x2 or 4x4...it's not just a hitch receiver and plug; other components are improved or added to benefit towing and provide the full capacity. Non-QL vehicles with factory two get load leveling shocks in the rear, for example...
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A little confused: On a 4x2 none of this applies, correct? Is there any air auto adjust when hooking on a trailer?

On a 4x4, the Limited comes with the QuadraTrac II, but there is an option for QuadraDrive II. QuadraLift is only available with QuadraDrive II..is this correct? Again, other than QuadraLift, is there any air auto adjust when hooking on a trailer if you do not have QuadraDrive II?

If I were to get 4x4, what must have option do I want for towing, not necessarily for off roading as I will not be dong that on purpose.

Thanks
Here goes. I had previously corrected my error that QD ll was not avail on Limited. It is only with V8 AND the ORAll pkg. Sobthats out of the way

Correct no QD ll on any 4x2 JGC period.

Yes there is a non QD ll load level option and it's the must have u ask about. The Group lV Tow gives u load leveling rear shocks.

Bye, main benefit QDll gets "on-roaders" is better traction starting out from standstill. For example, starting out from stoplights in snow. You know that stuff u never c
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If I were to buy mine again I would have got the V8. I have the V6 now and can't reccomend it for towing more than 3000lbs. Mine is a 2013 and I know they upgraded the cooling fan and alternator on the 14s and up. Tried to get them to upgrade mine but they won't. We have a 4500lb boat and trailer and the jeep would start to overheat going up mild grades in the desert. 2013 is rated to tow 5000lb but it doesn't live up to that unfortunately and I know I'm not the only one that's had issues with it.

I ended up buying a 2010 Yukon for the trips and towing and the Jeep is wife's daily driver and our around town car. I agree with what said about this being the more costly option but in the end I know this is the best tow rig for us. I wouldn't consider the V6 if you are serious about towing more within the next few years. The gas mileage difference between the 6 and 8 isn't much to risk it.

The 4x4 is the best choice as well due to the quadralift. In the rare event of rain here in SoCal the Jeep sticks to the ground on the slippery 405, 5, and 101. Very happy with the 4x4. It was said before but the resale will be much better with it as well.
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