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Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

Decided on a limited JGC 2015

Question is which motor, v6, ecodiesel, or v8

Usage of the jeep:
1. Commuting 60 miles per day 5 days a week
2. Possibly 7 weekend trips this spring of 360 miles round trip ( could take our Honda accord depending on gas millage between the two cars)
3. 3-4 trips per year pulling a pop up tent trailer (approx 3400 pds)
4. Eventually graduating (a couple of years or so)to a travel trailer with max gvwr of 6000 pds

Any input would be appreciated.

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Old 02-04-2015, 12:24 AM
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

V6 = Lowest priced option. Will handle towing OK, won't like the 6000 lb guy as much, but it will work.

Ecodiesel = Highest priced option. Will easily handle your towing needs. However, the diesel does have higher maintenance costs, and is a different beast than any gas engine. If you've never owned a diesel before, make sure and read up on this one. Nothing necessarily bad, just research and be aware. There are many happy Ecodiesel owners out there. If you plan on "playing" with the Jeep more, such as a programmer/tuner and other options, the Ecodiesel can respond quite nicely.

Hemi V8 = No problem handling your towing needs, and in my opinion, the most fun to drive. However, that "fun" comes at a cost at the pump. I think its great for a V8, getting mid to high teens in town for MPG, and low to mid twenties on the highway. However, the V6 will usually get a few better, and the Ecodiesel can potentially blow both of them away, with low twenties in town and high twenties to over thirty MPG highway.

It all boils down to what exactly you want. If you want a great long distance traveler, which to me looks like it'd fit your usage pretty well, the Ecodiesel would be your best bet. If you are looking for more fun and don't care about the MPG as much, Hemi. If you are looking for the lower price point and aren't in a hurry to get anywhere with that 6000 lb load, the V6 is workable.

One last note: although the 8-speed transmissions behind all three engines are an improvement over the older 5 and 6 speed units previously used, the V6 unit is a German design tweaked and built by Chrysler. The units behind the Ecodiesel and V8 are designed and built by the Germans. All are good, but the V6 version seems to have a slightly higher rate of issues.
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

SouthDakota gave an excellent summary. My $0.02:


I have 2015 JGC Overland with V6.


I haven't towed anything, but with a full load of people and completely filled cargo area, the V6 has plenty of power for interstates in hilly PA and NY without a hiccup, even in Eco mode. Including passing and climbing. I am VERY happy with the V6 and 8 gear transmission combination.


Diesel is an expensive option, costing between $4k and $5k (don't remember exact number). It will take years/miles to make that difference up in fuel savings. You'd have to do the calculations based on your miles and your fuel prices to see how long/far the break-even point would be. But for extended towing and cruising it is a good choice, especially with the torque it puts out.


V8 not much less fuel efficient than V6, with better torque (but torque not as good as Diesel) and more power than the V6 for when you get your heavier tow load.


If you are in a mountainous area of CA, and/or your excursions will be in steep terrain and towing, probably V8 or Diesel is better choice.


Note that if you want QuadraDrive (as opposed to QuadraTrac), it is NOT available with the V6.
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No quadradrive in the V6? Are you quite sure?
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:04 PM
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No quadradrive in the V6? Are you quite sure?
Yes, never was an option (14/15) on any Limited which OP has decided on. Only avail on Overland and Summit with V8 or Diesel.
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

I would go with the diesel. I would also go with the Overland or Summit. The air suspension is nice for towing, as it always keeps the vehicle level. No tail end sagging due to weight. When I attach my trailer, you can instantly see the tail end lifting up to accommodate the weight.

One thing that nobody pointed out was resale value after putting on all of those miles. Not to mention the amount of miles the different motors can actually handle, as the diesel will out last the gas engines by far. Looking at your estimated planned trips and adding some for your daily running around etc.., you will more than likely put on 20k-30K miles per year. If you keep the Jeep for 5 years, the gas models will more than likely be worth close to nothing, as the diesel will still hold some value. Some consider a diesel engine with 150k just broken in. lol.

I have the 14' diesel and I love it. I tow an 6x12 enclosed trailer multiple times a year on 1100 round trips as well as a heavy fiberglass ski boat every weekend during the summer to the lake. The diesel pulls both very effortlessly. You can still step on the pedal very lightly doing 70mph and hit 90+ mph without even realizing. I've driven the hemi, both in the JGC and in the dodge ram. It's close, but I still don't think it compares to the diesel. You can definitely feel the torque when you step on it. The gas mileage is great too. On my long hauls with no trailer, I average around 32mph. Of course it drops some if I maintain speeds over 80. I make it from PA to NC on 3/4 a tank of gas which is great. Its about a 500 mile trip. With the gasser you'll be stopping a lot more since it doesn't get close to the same mileage.

The added torque, better resale value, engine longevity, and amount of miles between fill ups, all out weighted the added cost for fuel and maintenance. I already put over 30k miles on my Jeep in the year that I had it and wouldn't go back to a gas engine.
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Yes, never was an option (14/15) on any Limited which OP has decided on. Only avail on Overland and Summit with V8 or Diesel.
? You sure about that? My '14 V8 Limited has Quadradrive.
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? You sure about that? My '14 V8 Limited has Quadradrive.
Duh, forgot that ORA ll with the V8 also gets it in the Limited trim. You obviously have ORA ll.
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

The V6 in this thing is more than adequate. I've got a heavy foot too. It seems to be the most reliable option of the three, but that's opinion based. I have a bad feeling about Jeep diesels from passed experience.
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I have a bad feeling about Jeep diesels from passed experience.
Completely different...and proven...engine than in past Jeep diesels. Same engine is also available in the RAM 1500 pickup.
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Re: Need advice from experience Jeep Owners

I have the V6, but for you I would probably get the diesel. The issue is you eventually graduating to the 6,000 lb trailer.

I've had the V6 in two WK2s, a 2011 with the 5 speed and the 2014 with the 8 speed. The 8 speed was a HUGE improvement, and I never want for power really, understanding its a 5,000 lb SUV. The Hemi to me day to day doesn't feel much different than the V6, so I don't see the need to spend the additional money at the pump.

Now...towing. My concern for you is that you're going to get to that point where you want that 6,000 lb trailer and you're going to feel the 6 isn't enough for the vehicle, you and your family, all your stuff AND a 6klb trailer and you'll wind up replacing the Jeep with something else. Thats going to be costlier for you than just buying the diesel now.

I'd get a diesel Overland or Summit. I tried to cheap out and get the Laredo X (Limited now) in the 2011, but the bells and whistles called to me.
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