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Old 07-02-2016, 08:52 PM
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

Love the 14 shifter. Was a bit weired the first few times driving but quickly learnt/remembered what to do. The new 16 shifter looks to be similar to the ford falcon 2006+ in Australia. With a flick of the shifter to one side it goes to manual mode to change gears + - . This would also put it in to sport mode?

Also they have the +/- the wrong way round. While bracking you would want to go down gears so it would be easir to push forward with the momentum of the car braking as with accelerating pulling back.

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Old 07-03-2016, 02:25 AM
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

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Love the 14 shifter. Was a bit weired the first few times driving but quickly learnt/remembered what to do. The new 16 shifter looks to be similar to the ford falcon 2006+ in Australia. With a flick of the shifter to one side it goes to manual mode to change gears + - . This would also put it in to sport mode?

Also they have the +/- the wrong way round. While bracking you would want to go down gears so it would be easir to push forward with the momentum of the car braking as with accelerating pulling back.

Hi DAC15 What do you mean the +/- are in the wrong direction?

While braking your your car shifts it's weight forward, having the - to downshifting is correct. While accelerating your body is push back into the seat, having the + to upshift is also correct.

Up (forward) to downshift and Down to Upshift. This is how racing vehicles have their lever setup. It's also true on most euro cars


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Some images I've seen they are opposite and some are the way we have explained.

Could be the camera angle
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

Does anyone know the story on this shifter? It's listed as a 2014, but has a boot - is it an export model or pre-16 update?

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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

That's weird it says 2014 Summit (US)

But the shifter is from a Dodge Charger.

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Old 07-04-2016, 04:00 PM
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

Its funny I have seen that exact shifter on ebay and here is what I think happened. The seller screwed it all up and somehow placed a Charger shifter in the opening of a Grand Cherokee console panel. If you look closer the chrome trim around the base of the shifter doesn't even fit right and is actually overlapping the small compartment where the quadra-lift buttons usually go.

So what you see going on here is a collection of parts from different cars that do not go together....in other words, a clueless seller
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

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If you look closer the chrome trim around the base of the shifter doesn't even fit right and is actually overlapping the small compartment where the quadra-lift buttons usually go.

The fitment does look "off" - the scenario begs the question, is the charger shifter better than the grand cherokee - i.e. would it be easier to shift between D & R (not necessarily worried about the P 'issue').

Is it essentially the same shifter, or is there a reason for the larger boot?


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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

There's also the issue of putting it in Sport Mode.

I drove a 16 today, and the Sport Mode button is on the dash, the right of the ECO button.

So....there needs to be a logic/software change too.
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

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There's also the issue of putting it in Sport Mode.

I drove a 16 today, and the Sport Mode button is on the dash, the right of the ECO button.

So....there needs to be a logic/software change too.
hmm ..I don't like that, I like just tapping the shifter back with out even looking to go to sport mode. hunting a button on the dash when you want it is a step back. I like the new shifter other than that though
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There's also the issue of putting it in Sport Mode.

I drove a 16 today, and the Sport Mode button is on the dash, the right of the ECO button.

So....there needs to be a logic/software change too.

Perhaps Jeep thought they would get sued by folks claiming they loss MPG because the shifter when pulled back from Drive, goes into Sport mode without a locking mechanism.

In all seriousness folks it's lack of common sense. For that reason alone the manufacture should always design according to the KISS method.

Personally I don't like the sport button. The 16 gain two more buttons around the eco button row.

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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

Aside from the 'Sport' button - confirmation that the shifters are physically different. Different wiring harness, but the wire colors appear to be the same.

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Aside from the 'Sport' button - confirmation that the shifters are physically different. Different wiring harness, but the wire colors appear to be the same.

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Can you post a picture of the side where the factory harness plugs into the shifter module? preferably both next to each other


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